[SOLVED] Have all devices in the same network

Marllon Nasser

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I have this current setup:

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Problems:
  • PS4 connection is bad.
  • I am unable mirror the phone to the smartTV - apparently they are connected to different networks
  • In the future I might buy a printer... and I want to use on the phone.... nor the computers - I'm not sure if this current setup will work.
I wonder if I can use a simple switch to solve everything.
Something like this:

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How to solve this?
 

Marllon Nasser

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Tplink wifi router serves no purpose there.
Use Google mesh in access point mode.

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I'm sorry.... My bad not to mention the physical space limit... it's possible to do but I'd need to break the entire house (plasters) and buy lots of cable..

Basically the main provider stays in the dining room and its far away from the cisco rv042.
Anyways...is there any other way to do this without changing the idea of have more than one exits from the main router provider?
 
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Hey... I reopened this thread because Google's wifi doesn't work in access mode when it has more than one device.

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So.... My current problem is that the TV it's in a different network than the wifi.

I'm using this setup

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Hard to say if you are sure that you can not run the remote units in AP mode then you have no solution.
Mesh manufactures think you need to buy everything from them and they rig their equipment to only function in the mode they feel is best. They really don't care if there are more advanced users that need something different. They sell to the consumer who is a simpleton and just wants to plug in magic boxes.

So I am pretty sure you can put the main unit in AP mode. If that makes it so you can not use the remote units then you pretty much put the devices in the garbage and start again. Some mesh systems you can run the remote units in AP mode but the wifi mesh feature does not work.

I guess it depends on how much wifi you actually need. You could run the main google router as a AP and then use the old tplink you have and run that as a AP also.

Generally if you were building this from scratch I would recommend you buy inexpensive routers and use them as AP.

The marketing on the mesh systems is so massive it hides the fact that there are many other much cheaper solutions.
 

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Also FYI.

Source:

https://support.google.com/googlene...,will-google-wifi-work-with-my-existing-setup

FAQ #2.

"Will Google Wifi work with my existing setup?
  • Each Google Wifi point is a router that’s designed to work with your existing ISP and modem.
  • Google Wifi can create a mesh network only with Google Nest Wifi and Google Wifi routers and points. If you have a non-compatible router (such as a Cisco, Linksys, or Netgear router), it won't mesh with your Google Wifi points.
  • Google Wifi works with most connected wireless devices including tablets, printers, and smart appliances. Although most devices are compatible with Google Wifi, there are a few that aren't.
    • Note: Nest Wifi Pro (Wi-Fi 6E) can't be combined with Nest Wifi or Google Wifi (Wi-Fi 5) in a mesh network".
 

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Yes... I am finally sure that I can't use Googles wifi as AP. This is possible only if I had one devide.

So I would need to buy another router (or use the existing one) as AP. and Connect Google's wifi and everything else on it.

Main router -> Cisco Router -> Another Router (AP) -> Google Wifi, ethernets, etc
 

Ralston18

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There should be only one router configured to provide DHCP IP addresses to network devices.

All other downstream routers thus relegated (with those router's DHCP IP function disabled) as simple "switches".

However, my understanding/perception is that Google devices need the "One Ring to rule them all".

That likely being a Google Router.

Perhaps no one is playing "nice".

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Hey... I reopened this thread because Google's wifi doesn't work in access mode when it has more than one device.
Are you trying to set it in bridge mode?
That's not it.

For access point mode you have to:
connect google wifi through lan port (wan port remains unconnected) and
turn off DHCP server in google wifi settings.

Not sure, if it allows turning off DHCP though.

Alternative method would be using google wifi as primary router and
replacing cisco with a switch
(or using cisco as a switch - not use wan ports and turn off dhcp).
 
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Are you trying to set it in bridge mode?
That's not it.

For access point mode you have to:
connect google wifi through lan port (wan port remains unconnected) and
turn off DHCP server in google wifi settings.

Not sure, if it allows turning off DHCP though.

Alternative method would be using google wifi as primary router and
replacing cisco with a switch
(or using cisco as a switch - not use wan ports and turn off dhcp).
its not possible to use google wifi without wan connected. I can't setup the device without wan port connected.

I want to keep cisco since there is a possibility to add another WAN connections.


EDIT: What about this solution?

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So why keep the cisco router if you are going to do that.
You now have 3 routers in the the path. 2 is bad enough.
I want to have the possibility of having two different internets and keeping the setup.

I wonder if its gonna work.

My main issue right now is to be able to mirror my phone screen to the TV - To achieve that the TV must be in the same network of my wifi.
 
It will work but be messy to setup because you need 3 different networks that are on different subnets. Just be sure the wan and lan are not on the same network subnet on any of your routers.
Since no end device connects to the cisco or the ISP router everything is on the same network, the lan network created by the google mesh router.

Multiple internet connections do not work to well. You can't really combine them and they only sorta of work for redunancy. Problem is what is "down?". Most times they do not just complelely fail they do stuff like get lots of packet loss or have poor throughput. You are better off just moving a cable between routers manually since you the human know better than the equipment when a connection is having issues.