Question Having some issues since I changed to a amd GPU

[THA2123]

Hi!

I recently got a 6800 (xfx speedster SWFT 319) and I find I have been having stutters here and there in games, particularly at the beginning of games. I looked around and found that perhaps it has to do with shader caching, where this is a fresh install of drivers and it largely seems present at the beginning of playing. I actually reset the cache in adrenalin to see if it would replicate the worst of it at the beginning of 3 different games (Assassins Creed Origins, Deadlink, and Sniper Contracts 2) and it did seem to hitch the same ways for the first while.

Thing is, I still feel it hitching here and there. I don't recall this problem with my 3060 ti. I have tried several, random games I have installed at the moment (the three above, Horizon, outer worlds, A hat in time, Dishonored 2, Sifu, Gotham Knights, Wave break, Elden Ring, Sessions) and all of them have hitching and stuttering here and there, in particular at the beginning. The only exception is Gotham Knights, which actually seems smooth through out even at first load, though FSR didn't seem to do anything. Also, Sessions: Skate Sim didn't just hitch, it went to a grey static screen and static sound for a sec or 2 before returning.

VR seemed fine but was stuttering bad with Into the Radius and Blade and Sorcery in a couple spots. However, later last night the stuttering seemed much better and I was getting 200mbs at 72hz pretty consistent using quest 2 over link. Seemed relatively similar to my 3060ti.

I just installed this a couple days ago, but I have tried some things along the way. I shut off everything in the Adrenaline software that was on by default including in game overlay. I updated my BIOS and chipset drivers to the latest.

I removed the Nvidia drivers with DDU in safe mode without internet and had the AMD drivers already downloaded to be installed before I connected back to the network.

I'm not sure what to do. I was building another PC, so I grabbed this GPU to do a slight upgrade over the 3060ti and have more VRAM, but its a little frustrating feeling like I am having a worst overall experience, albeit a short sample size, then I had with the 3060 ti. I am sure I am missing helpful information, but I thought maybe people with more experience could help me out.

pc specs are;

12400f
B660m Bazooka msi motherboard
1tb MSI M370 nvme
16 GB Corsair Vengeance Ram
6800 xfx SWFT 319 (previously MSI 3060ti gaming X)
EVGA super nova 750ga 80plus gold 750 watt PSU

My Monitor is a samsung odyssey qhd 27.

 

[thestryker]

With something like that it tends to be really difficult to narrow down where the issue lies. I can say based on what specs you shared there aren't any red flags. If you have multiple screens it's easier to check monitoring software to see if these issues correlate with CPU/GPU/Disk spikes, but if you don't you can setup RTSS to display usage pulled from the sensors in an overlay.

I think this is likely to be the only way you'll be able to identify where your issue might lie. HWInfo/HWMonitor/MSI Afterburner are generally the software monitoring tools I use (Afterburner has an installer for RTSS with it). I'd also suggest running LatencyMon just to see if anything is standing out there. Of the games you've mentioned I have played HZD and Outer Worlds and neither of these (unless it's the new version of OW) are particularly hard to run so I don't think it would be any sort of hardware bottleneck.

It also wouldn't hurt to run something like 3dmark because the logging there is pretty good and if you notice issues while running it they may be reflected in the logs.

 

[THA2123]

With something like that it tends to be really difficult to narrow down where the issue lies. I can say based on what specs you shared there aren't any red flags. If you have multiple screens it's easier to check monitoring software to see if these issues correlate with CPU/GPU/Disk spikes, but if you don't you can setup RTSS to display usage pulled from the sensors in an overlay.

I think this is likely to be the only way you'll be able to identify where your issue might lie. HWInfo/HWMonitor/MSI Afterburner are generally the software monitoring tools I use (Afterburner has an installer for RTSS with it). I'd also suggest running LatencyMon just to see if anything is standing out there. Of the games you've mentioned I have played HZD and Outer Worlds and neither of these (unless it's the new version of OW) are particularly hard to run so I don't think it would be any sort of hardware bottleneck.

It also wouldn't hurt to run something like 3dmark because the logging there is pretty good and if you notice issues while running it they may be reflected in the logs.

I don't have much experience with monitoring software. I have HWMonitor installed, but for any of these, what would I be looking for?

Thank you so much for replying. I have been mulling over just returning it.

 

[thestryker]

I don't have much experience with monitoring software. I have HWMonitor installed, but for any of these, what would I be looking for?

Thank you so much for replying. I have been mulling over just returning it.

When hitches/stuttering happens usually something is interfering so you might see a spike in CPU usage that correlates to a drop in GPU usage. Also check the clockspeeds while in use because sometimes you'll see a drop or spike there. While it's unlikely you may also see a spike in disk usage if that's where the issue lies.

 

[THA2123]

When hitches/stuttering happens usually something is interfering so you might see a spike in CPU usage that correlates to a drop in GPU usage. Also check the clockspeeds while in use because sometimes you'll see a drop or spike there. While it's unlikely you may also see a spike in disk usage if that's where the issue lies.

Thank you so much. I just got another grey screen static with static sound when trying Warhammer Boltgun. I think I am just returning it. I don't know enough about this stuff either way and stuff like the grey static screen just seem wrong.

 

[thestryker]

Thank you so much. I just got another grey screen static with static sound when trying Warhammer Boltgun. I think I am just returning it. I don't know enough about this stuff either way and stuff like the grey static screen just seem wrong.

Oh definitely good call if you're getting an issue like that. I must have missed that part when reading your original post. Even being knowledgeable I wouldn't bother there either it's a new product and that type of issue should not happen.

 

[THA2123]

Oh definitely good call if you're getting an issue like that. I must have missed that part when reading your original post. Even being knowledgeable I wouldn't bother there either it's a new product and that type of issue should not happen.

I ended up switching to a 3070 and everything is running vastly better. I have zero idea why my experience with amd cards have been this way . The 6800 was the second AMD card I ended up trying in alittle over a year and i had issues with both. The 6800 being awful with stuttering and random static stuff. I just hate that i dropped down to 8vram and a lesser card, but everything just works. Also had a bundle where i was able to upgrade to a 12600kf as well, so that helps a bit. Still disappointing.

Anyway, just to wrap up that issue for anyone who might stumble upon this thread; I never found what the issue was with the static stuff and the stuttering could of had to do with the shader cache stuff and I was just being too senstive about it (however, it would not settle down). Either way, it is what it is now and I am ok with 3070 for the time being.

Thanks again for the suggestions!

 

[Avro Arrow]

It sounds like you have a defective card and so just putting in another GeForce card doesn't actually prove anything. Now, if you put in another Radeon card and got the same problem that would be another story. It sounds like the specific card you have is defective. It has happened to me and it sucks but returning it for a refund instead of exchanging it for another card would just be screwing yourself. Exchange it for another card and if that card is also bad, then you'd be justified in just returning it.

All I can tell you is that the last FOURTEEN cards that I've owned have all been Radeons:
2 x XFX HD 4870
1 x XFX HD 5450
1 x Dell HD 5870
1 x XFX HD 6450
2 x Gigabyte HD 7970
2 x Sapphire R9 Fury
1 x XFX RX 5700 XT <- RMA
1 x Powercolor RX 6500 XT
1 x ASRock RX 6600
1 x ATi RX 6800 XT
1 x ASRock RX 7900 XTX
You might call me very experienced with Radeons. 😉

That card should just work. I had to RMA my RX 5700 XT TWICE (believe it or not) but all was well after that. If Radeons were inherently bad, I wouldn't have owned so many and I DEFINITELY wouldn't be recommending them today, but I did and I do.

For your own sake, go back to the store, say it's bad and ask for a replacement. This could be a learning experience or it could be you resigning yourself to overpay for GeForce cards. It's up to you.