HD 7xxx series by the end of 2011?

ambam

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Will the 22nm Radeon HD 7xxx series graphics cards be on store shelves before the end of 2011? What about the Nvidia GTX 6xx "Kepler" cards?
 

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Hopefully we'll see something like a 70-90% performance increase over the HD 69xx and GTX 5xx series GPU's. Along with 3-4GB of GPU memory. Also, only a superclocked 8-core Ivy Bridge would be able to handle the colossal throughput created by these monstrous cards. The Nehalems and Sandy Bridge processors would severely bottleneck and choke on the next-gen GPU's.
 

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ambam, probably not, difference between 40nm and 28nm is 40%, but it's still unknown how much performance increase we will see, but one is sure: heat and power consumption will be lower. And for sure Sandy Bridge, Nehalems and even Phenom IIs will run them fine. And for sure low-end HD7000s/GTX600s will not beat GTX580.
 


70-90% increase - No chance.
CPU's bottlenecking these cards - Again No chance.

I cant decide if your being overly optimistic and getting carried away with the hype being put about on teh net or if your baiting ?

Mactronix :)
 

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The Nehalem CPU still bottlenecks 2-3 way SLI GTX 580's even after it has been significantly overclocked.
 

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You do realize there is a 3GB Gtx580 version?
 

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ambam, Nehalem does not bottleneck anything. Even Phenom II x4 *BE* is barely bottlenecking anything or maybe does not at all. The highest performance increase *6990 vs 7990/690* would probably be 50%, but for sure not higher and from other cards i expect around 30% increase.
Olliiee, that 3GB 580 is only made by Palit and i've heard that it is a very low quality, noisy and hot, so imo it's better to have 1.5GB models.
 
Yea im still waiting for proof of what ambam said the suggestion was that anything from an entire generation of a certain CPU architecture wouldn't run 2-3 way SLI with 580's
So thats one hell of a performance spread of CPU's cant run what is esentially 2 different things. Which is it 2 or 3 ? And show some proof.
I'm waiting ambam.
Mactronix :)
 

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The throughput that enthusiast-level 3-4 way SLI/CFX puts on a CPU is absolutely astronomical. I believe I read in an article about how even the Core i7 980X @4.2+ GHz still bottlenecks 4-way SLI GTX 480. The GTX 6xx and ATI HD 7xxx are going to push even more 1's and 0's through your CPU. Which is why an entire new generation of CPU's are being released. The 8-core Ivy Bridge from Intel, and 8-core Bulldozer chips from AMD.
 

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Gainward also makes a 3GB GTX 580. It's called the "phantom."
 


Oh so now we are up to a 3-4 way multiple card system from a 2-3 :pfff: Then a 4 way 480 set up, changing the goal posts because you got called on something eh :non:
Did you know that you can play Crysis @2560 x 1600 which is an enthusiast level resolution with an enthusiast level 5970 at exactly the same FPS using an E6300 as you would get with an i7920 ?
FC2, Stalker, WIC all playable at the same level as the i7920 with an E8400 and thats down to 1680 x 1050.

Your supposition and fears for the forthcoming generation of GPU are wildly far of the mark my friend. The CPU's are coming regardless of the GPU's involved. In case you have been in a cave on the north face of a mountain for the last few months you should know that the latest CPU's are all about Fusion, the combination of CPU and GPU on the same die.
They are not desperately running around in circles at Intel screaming "Oh my god we need to make a more powerful CPU stat" "Have you seen what Nvidia and AMD are making, how can they ever expect those to run on out feeble CPU's, why didn't they warn us now were going to look silly"
Like you seem to think.

Mactronix :)
 

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3GB of texture memory is a bit excessive unless you're trying to run games at resolutions beyond 1920x1080, and/or are using multiple monitors. I'm sure the top-tier GTX 6xx and HD 7xxx will come with at least 3GB of frame buffer.

I have a single 1920x1080 monitor, so 1GB of RAM on my HD 5870 is sufficient.
 

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Why do you assume that going from 40nm to 28nm + more than 1 y to improve the architecture will yield a meager increase, similar to that of the GTX 5xx which essentially consisted of rushed optimizations & fixes in a 6 months time frame ? Excuse me but that sounds ludicrous.

I'm taking a safe bet on something like 50% at least.