HDD to SSD

[braydenkay7]

How to move my current Windows 10 from HDD to SSD?

 

[USAFRet]

How to move my current Windows 10 from HDD to SSD?

How much total space is consumed on your current drive?
How big is the new SSD?
What OS is this?
Desktop or laptop?

 

[braydenkay7]

How to move my current Windows 10 from HDD to SSD?

How much total space is consumed on your current drive?
How big is the new SSD?
What OS is this?
Desktop or laptop?

308 gb used out of 931
its not a new ssd its been a current one but 110gb
Windows 10
Desktop

 

[USAFRet]

308 gb used out of 931
its not a new ssd its been a current one but 110gb
Windows 10
Desktop

Well..here we have a problem.
308GB obviously will not fit into a 120GB SSD.

For a clone operation, that used space needs to be below 85GB or so.
You can't clone "only the OS".

What constitutes this space, and do you have another drive you can copy/move stuff to?

 

[braydenkay7]

308 gb used out of 931
its not a new ssd its been a current one but 110gb
Windows 10
Desktop

Well..here we have a problem.
308GB obviously will not fit into a 120GB SSD.

Um well I have steam files and basically games taking up that space I tried clearing up enough space its just not possible, but I don't know if this has anything to do with it but my other version of windows crashed this morning and we reinstalled a new version the other version claimed it had an error that the automatic repairs couldn't fix we tried everything but eventually just had to reinstall another version.

For a clone operation, that used space needs to be below 85GB or so.
You can't clone "only the OS".

What constitutes this space, and do you have another drive you can copy/move stuff to?

 

[USAFRet]

Um well I have steam files and basically games taking up that space I tried clearing up enough space its just not possible, but I don't know if this has anything to do with it but my other version of windows crashed this morning and we reinstalled a new version the other version claimed it had an error that the automatic repairs couldn't fix we tried everything but eventually just had to reinstall another version.

For a successful clone operation, tat actual used space must be below 85GB. There is no option.
Uninstall, delete, copy to elsewhere...
However you do it, that's what needs to happen.

Or, you simply do a clean install on the SSD. This, of course, requires a reinstall of everything else.

 

[braydenkay7]

Um well I have steam files and basically games taking up that space I tried clearing up enough space its just not possible, but I don't know if this has anything to do with it but my other version of windows crashed this morning and we reinstalled a new version the other version claimed it had an error that the automatic repairs couldn't fix we tried everything but eventually just had to reinstall another version.

For a successful clone operation, tat actual used space must be below 85GB. There is no option.
Uninstall, delete, copy to elsewhere...
However you do it, that's what needs to happen.

Or, you simply do a clean install on the SSD. This, of course, requires a reinstall of everything else.

so it isn't possible to just clone windows itself?

 

[USAFRet]

so it isn't possible to just clone windows itself?

Unfortunately, no.
We'd all like that function, but no.

Currently, there are thousands of entries in your Registry, pointing towards locations on the C drive.
All your installed applications, among other things.
Somehow, most, but not all, of those entries would have to change. And change to what? D, E Y....what is the drive letter that would be the other part of the split? Completely unknown. And the path beneath that drive letter is even more problematic.

 

[braydenkay7]

so it isn't possible to just clone windows itself?

Unfortunately, no.
We'd all like that function, but no.

Currently, there are thousands of entries in your Registry, pointing towards locations on the C drive.
All your installed applications, among other things.
Somehow, most, but not all, of those entries would have to change. And change to what? D, E Y....what is the drive letter that would be the other part of the split? Completely unknown. And the path beneath that drive letter is even more problematic.

How do we clone then?

 

[USAFRet]

How do we clone then?

Because everything goes as a group.
It all ends up on the C drive again.

Splitting it would be the problem. Somethings remain on the C, some things would end up on some other drive letter, and be completely non-functional.

Consider a bucket of water.
Into that bucket, we put some red food dye and some blue food dye.
Purple water, right?

Later, we want to take only some of it and put into a different bucket. But we only want the red water....Can't happen.

 

[braydenkay7]

How do we clone then?

Because everything goes as a group.
It all ends up on the C drive again.

Splitting it would be the problem. Somethings remain on the C, some things would end up on some other drive letter, and be completely non-functional.

Consider a bucket of water.
Into that bucket, we put some red food dye and some blue food dye.
Purple water, right?

Later, we want to take only some of it and put into a different bucket. But we only want the red water....Can't happen.

I understand. What is the best way to clone. Do I just drag and drop the files from HDD to SSD?

 

[USAFRet]

I understand. What is the best way to clone. Do I just drag and drop the files from HDD to SSD?

nooo....that is a fast way to complete fail.

Once you get that consumed space thing correct, this:
Specific steps for a successful clone operation:
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Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration, if a Samsung SSD)
Power off
Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
Power up
Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive
Click the 'Clone' button
Wait until it is done
When it finishes, power off
Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD
This is to allow the system to try to boot from ONLY the SSD
Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
If good, continue the power up

It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

If it works, and it should, all is good.

Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe as necessary.
Delete the 450MB Recovery Partition, here:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/4f1b84ac-b193-40e3-943a-f45d52e23685/cant-delete-extra-healthy-recovery-partitions-and-healthy-efi-system-partition?forum=w8itproinstall
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[braydenkay7]

I understand. What is the best way to clone. Do I just drag and drop the files from HDD to SSD?

nooo....that is a fast way to complete fail.

Once you get that consumed space thing correct, this:
Specific steps for a successful clone operation:
-----------------------------
Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration, if a Samsung SSD)
Power off
Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
Power up
Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive
Click the 'Clone' button
Wait until it is done
When it finishes, power off
Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD
This is to allow the system to try to boot from ONLY the SSD
Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
If good, continue the power up

It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

If it works, and it should, all is good.

Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe as necessary.
Delete the 450MB Recovery Partition, here:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/4f1b84ac-b193-40e3-943a-f45d52e23685/cant-delete-extra-healthy-recovery-partitions-and-healthy-efi-system-partition?forum=w8itproinstall
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Ok I'm below 85. All I have for drives is my HDD, SSD, and DVD. I should not have to disconnect the DVD correct?

 

[USAFRet]

Ok I'm below 85. All I have for drives is my HDD, SSD, and DVD. I should not have to disconnect the DVD correct?

Right. Don't have to disconnect the DVD>

Follow the steps exactly.

 

[braydenkay7]

Ok I'm below 85. All I have for drives is my HDD, SSD, and DVD. I should not have to disconnect the DVD correct?

Right. Don't have to disconnect the DVD>

Follow the steps exactly.

The Macrium download is over 800 MB this is going to put me over the SSD space. Nevermind...

 

[USAFRet]

Ok I'm below 85. All I have for drives is my HDD, SSD, and DVD. I should not have to disconnect the DVD correct?

Right. Don't have to disconnect the DVD>

Follow the steps exactly.

The Macrium download is over 800 MB this is going to put me over the SSD space. Nevermind...

Less than 1GB.

 

[braydenkay7]

Ok I'm below 85. All I have for drives is my HDD, SSD, and DVD. I should not have to disconnect the DVD correct?

Right. Don't have to disconnect the DVD>

Follow the steps exactly.

The Macrium download is over 800 MB this is going to put me over the SSD space. Nevermind...

Less than 1GB.

Tried to clone. Said not all copied. Insufficient space. I have it down to 78 Gigs

 

[USAFRet]

Tried to clone. Said not all copied. Insufficient space. I have it down to 78 Gigs

And the SSD is one large blank partition?

 

[braydenkay7]

Tried to clone. Said not all copied. Insufficient space. I have it down to 78 Gigs

And the SSD is one large blank partition?

No there is 3 partitions. One is at 32 mb one is 113 mb and another is 402 mb

 

[USAFRet]

Tried to clone. Said not all copied. Insufficient space. I have it down to 78 Gigs

And the SSD is one large blank partition?

No there is 3 partitions. One is at 32 mb one is 113 mb and another is 402 mb

Delete all existing partitions on that drive.
Leave one blank space.

 

[braydenkay7]

Tried to clone. Said not all copied. Insufficient space. I have it down to 78 Gigs

And the SSD is one large blank partition?

No there is 3 partitions. One is at 32 mb one is 113 mb and another is 402 mb

Delete all existing partitions on that drive.
Leave one blank space.

How do I do that?

 

[USAFRet]

How do I do that?

You can do that in Disk Management.

 

[braydenkay7]

How do I do that?

You can do that in Disk Management.

It wont let me delete them. The other two are system reserve and health recovery. Widows wont allow delete

 

[USAFRet]

How do I do that?

You can do that in Disk Management.

It wont let me delete them. The other two are system reserve and health recovery. Widows wont allow delete

These are on the SSD?

OK, lets test...
Power off
Disconnect the SS
Power up

Does it boot properly?

 

[braydenkay7]

How do I do that?

You can do that in Disk Management.

It wont let me delete them. The other two are system reserve and health recovery. Widows wont allow delete

These are on the SSD?

OK, lets test...
Power off
Disconnect the SS
Power up

Does it boot properly?

I disconnected it. It does not boot properly. Asks to insert a disc to boot.