[SOLVED] HDD turned on after clicking on shut down ?

Jacob 51

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I think I have finally found the reason for the fans still running after shut down, which I posted earlier on Tom's Hardware.

I found today that after I clicked on shut down, my HDD spins up. (I heard it). It was obviously turned off because of inactivity as I was only using the SSD (windows is on SSD, Chrome is on SSD). I worked on chrome for 5 hours and didn't open folder or any app on the HDD.

So after the HDD span up, the display went black as normal but the fans kept spinning. I had to turn them off by long pressing the power button.

Is this normal or is due to an underlying problem? Does it happen to everyone else if their HDD shuts down and they shut down the system (with windows being on the SSD)?

SSD: ADATA SU630 240 GB
HDD: WD blue 1 TB 7200 RPM
Core i5 3470
Zebronics H61
12 GB RAM
GT 1030 GALAX WHITE
 
Solution
that is odd

download this and look on hdd and see if any system files on it

while you at it, can you right click start
choose disk management
in next window, expand top and bottom to show all details
take a screenshot and upload to an image sharing website and show link here

It would seem to me that some part of windows is on the hdd
Was hdd in PC when you installed windows on the ssd?

Colif

Win 11 Master
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that is odd

download this and look on hdd and see if any system files on it

while you at it, can you right click start
choose disk management
in next window, expand top and bottom to show all details
take a screenshot and upload to an image sharing website and show link here

It would seem to me that some part of windows is on the hdd
Was hdd in PC when you installed windows on the ssd?
 
Solution

Jacob 51

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that is odd

download this and look on hdd and see if any system files on it

while you at it, can you right click start
choose disk management
in next window, expand top and bottom to show all details
take a screenshot and upload to an image sharing website and show link here

It would seem to me that some part of windows is on the hdd
Was hdd in PC when you installed windows on the ssd?
View: https://imgur.com/a/gz652Hq


The HDD doesn't have files of current installation, as I disconnected the HDD before installing windows on the SSD.

However I have a copy of windows installed on the HDD.
The HDD is MBR, so it cannot load windows from it. Even if I go into the boot menu, it doesn't how up there. (SSD is GPT).
 

Colif

Win 11 Master
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what did windirstat show? its possible windows has something on there and it accesses it on shutdown.

It could be the hiberfil.sys file, for instance, that is used to store info if you use Fast startup in win 10. It would be strange for it not to be on ssd but maybe. That would explain why it starts at shutdown as PC saves info to that file on shutdown so boot is faster

have I suggested you turn this off? https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4189-turn-off-fast-startup-windows-10-a.html

if its off, the above file is unlikely to be reason.
 

Jacob 51

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what did windirstat show? its possible windows has something on there and it accesses it on shutdown.

It could be the hiberfil.sys file, for instance, that is used to store info if you use Fast startup in win 10. It would be strange for it not to be on ssd but maybe. That would explain why it starts at shutdown as PC saves info to that file on shutdown so boot is faster

have I suggested you turn this off? https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4189-turn-off-fast-startup-windows-10-a.html

if its off, the above file is unlikely to be reason.
View: https://imgur.com/a/Rcv51Jx

Idk what to screenshot in windirstat. It shows me some file names.

And, yes. My fast startup is turned off. It has been turned off for a month now.
 

Colif

Win 11 Master
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It looks like you running Security Essentials from the hdd since its last change date was 16 days ago.
You still have windows on the hdd (I guess you know that)
if you want that 14gb back:
  1. Rename the Windows folder to Windows.old
  2. Run Disk Cleanup from the Start menu
  3. Select the drive containing the Windows.old folder
  4. Previous "Windows Installation(s)" then click on OK
if the Files menu is where Program Files was, this shows how to take ownership and delete that folder as well - https://superuser.com/questions/915173/delete-old-windows-program-files-from-second-drive

there aren't any obvious system files there.

Did I suggest a clean boot? It might be a startup program to blame
Try a clean boot and see if it changes anything - make sure to read instructions and make sure NOT to disable any microsoft services or windows won't load right - https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/929135/how-to-perform-a-clean-boot-in-windows

if clean boot fixes it, it shows its likely a startup program. You should, over a number of startups. restart the programs you stopped to isolate the one that is to blame.

looking at shutdown log Might show us something - https://winaero.com/find-shutdown-log-windows-10/
 

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