Hello! Need help, starting out again

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I used to post here way back when. I don't know if anyone is here whom
used to know me?
Anyway, I am planning on starting up BG1 again and was wondering if
someone can pass on some tips to me about what attributes to give to
my fighter/thief (it's my fave class)? I know Imoen is a thief too, so
I don't need to strengthen my character in certain places, as she has
the skills.

Thanks to anyone who can help (or refer me back to some old posts
about this matter) 🙂
Naomi

 

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>Anyway, I am planning on starting up BG1 again and was wondering if
>someone can pass on some tips to me about what attributes to give to
>my fighter/thief (it's my fave class)?

Max out your STR, DEX and CON. The others don't matter too much. For thief
abilities, Find Traps and Open Locks are the most important.

 

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Those may be the most important stats, but the idea is to try to make a
characther that is not so 'perfect'. Also he/she should be real. Anyway,
that's just my opinion, I hate to make fighters that have 18/18/18
Str/Dx/Con and have like 3 charisma... it's not the idea of role playing


"Mlarz" <mlarz@aol.com> escribió en el mensaje
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> >Anyway, I am planning on starting up BG1 again and was wondering if
> >someone can pass on some tips to me about what attributes to give to
> >my fighter/thief (it's my fave class)?
>
> Max out your STR, DEX and CON. The others don't matter too much. For
thief
> abilities, Find Traps and Open Locks are the most important.

 

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Hi Naomi. One or two of us are still around if a little less active than we
used to be. Nothing better to do with our time after all 🙂
It's hard to recommend without knowing a little more. Dual or Multi-class,
Alignment, to Role-Play or just to beat BG? Is your fighter-thief a rogue
who is tough enough not to get caught out by that single kobold arrow and
likes dipping into pockets (there are some big benefits) or a fighter who
could almost make a Paladin and who is sharp enough to spot the occasional
trap and deal with it? Do you play bulk (carrying every last item home for
that 1gp) or barter (leaving the dross and negotiating better prices for the
class goods) ?

Personally, (for a m-c character) I would hope to roll a total of 80-ish and
go with :
DEX 18 - is always good for the thieving skills and will make a worthwhile
contribution to your AC - Max out if you can.
STR 15/16 - not as critical as you might think. Weight allowances
increase with every point from 15. No heavy armour or shield so your
fighter-thief will not be a 'tank' and will not have that weight to carry.
Use Minsc to full effect.
CON 16 Max - 16 essential but anything higher is a waste - no additional HP
benefit above 16 unless pure fighter.
WIS 10 - I would prefer to think my Rogue wise rather than clever 🙂
Does WIS give spell resist benefits in BG1? (Can't remember). There are 3
more WIS points available in play remember.
INT 9/10 - double figures if you can. Or is a pair of planks really an
alternative?
CHA 10/12 - Reaction bonuses (better prices) start at CHA = 13 but an
additional point is available with the first 'tome'.

15+18+16+10+9+12 = 80

Colin E

"Naomi" <griffinng@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I used to post here way back when. I don't know if anyone is here whom
> used to know me?
> Anyway, I am planning on starting up BG1 again and was wondering if
> someone can pass on some tips to me about what attributes to give to
> my fighter/thief (it's my fave class)? I know Imoen is a thief too, so
> I don't need to strengthen my character in certain places, as she has
> the skills.
>
> Thanks to anyone who can help (or refer me back to some old posts
> about this matter) 🙂
> Naomi

 

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Naomi schrieb:

> I used to post here way back when. I don't know if anyone is here whom
> used to know me?
> Anyway, I am planning on starting up BG1 again and was wondering if
> someone can pass on some tips to me about what attributes to give to
> my fighter/thief (it's my fave class)? I know Imoen is a thief too, so
> I don't need to strengthen my character in certain places, as she has
> the skills.
>
> Thanks to anyone who can help (or refer me back to some old posts
> about this matter) 🙂
> Naomi

Hi Naomi,

welcome back. Already noticed that the group is experiencing heavy
traffic again due to "the one who must not be named"?

Colin already had some good advice for you I definitely second that.
Furthermore Mlarz proposed to max out on find traps and open locks and
with that I strongly disagree. My best BG1 game was a fighter dualled to
thief. I had Imoen do the lockpicking and trapfinding work and
concentrated on the things that are fun like picking pockets and
especially backstabbing.

Martin

 

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"Naomi" <griffinng@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:942aeea6.0408301309.2f23a1b8@posting.google.com...
> I used to post here way back when. I don't know if anyone is here whom
> used to know me?
> Anyway, I am planning on starting up BG1 again and was wondering if
> someone can pass on some tips to me about what attributes to give to
> my fighter/thief (it's my fave class)? I know Imoen is a thief too, so
> I don't need to strengthen my character in certain places, as she has
> the skills.
>
> Thanks to anyone who can help (or refer me back to some old posts
> about this matter) 🙂
> Naomi

Hi Naomi,

I remember you from way back, too. I'm currently playing a dual class
fighter/thief. He was a fighter who learned thieving skills, as Jaheira
says "for the good of the group," because there wasn't a thief. He's
concentrating on stealth, find traps, set traps, and backstabbing, which
suits my concept of the character.

If you have BG2, one thing you might try to make your game more interesting
is to download BGTutu. This makes the game play like BG2, and allows you to
choose from more fighter kits, if you wanted to try, say, an assassin
instead of a fighter/thief.

Cyn

 

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Hi Colin,

Sorry I haven't been back to post a reply until now... Been busy!

Anyway, I don't even really know what alignment to make my character
:-/ I just know that I liked Imoen when I played previously, but she
and my fighter/ thief ended up with some of the same skills and both
lacking in others. I think this is because I gave my thief the same
stregths as Imoen before I started the game, not knowing what Imoen
excelled in. Multi-class is where you can have two or more classes,
right? In that case, I think I just want to dual-class.

I just basically want the two of them to have the best range of
thieving skills between my dudette and Imoen... obviously preferring
my own character to have the best thieving skills (whatever they may
be!). I do tend to carry every single thing I find to take back to
sell, my bartering skills leave a lot to be desired, I need to figure
out which of the merchants pays the best prices.

A friend of mine also just treated me to BG2, so now I have a dilemma
of whether to play BG1 all the way through and then import my
character to BG2, or whether to just forget about BG1. Was also
wondering how that works... when you import your character to BG2,
surely s/he ends up way tougher than if you started a character from
scratch for BG2? Do the special items they've gathered along the way
get carried over also?


I'm going to print out your recommendations for stats, I'll never
remember all of that 😛 Now I hope this gets posted to the group soon
so I can get started. It's been so long since I've played any RPGs and
I'm all excited to start again, hehe.

Finally, just want to say that I'm sorry I don't have knowledge of all
the lingo like I used to, being as I have a terrible memory, I've
fogotten a lot of it! Maybe buying strategy books would help?!

Thanks for your help, if people don't mind, it'd be cool to have you
send some tips to my email address (n_o_m_e_s_(at)hotmail(dot)com) @ .

Naomi


"Colin E" <colin@c-elliott.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<4133e0ad$0$22761$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>...
> Hi Naomi. One or two of us are still around if a little less active than we
> used to be. Nothing better to do with our time after all 🙂
> It's hard to recommend without knowing a little more. Dual or Multi-class,
> Alignment, to Role-Play or just to beat BG? Is your fighter-thief a rogue
> who is tough enough not to get caught out by that single kobold arrow and
> likes dipping into pockets (there are some big benefits) or a fighter who
> could almost make a Paladin and who is sharp enough to spot the occasional
> trap and deal with it? Do you play bulk (carrying every last item home for
> that 1gp) or barter (leaving the dross and negotiating better prices for the
> class goods) ?
>
> Personally, (for a m-c character) I would hope to roll a total of 80-ish and
> go with :
> DEX 18 - is always good for the thieving skills and will make a worthwhile
> contribution to your AC - Max out if you can.
> STR 15/16 - not as critical as you might think. Weight allowances
> increase with every point from 15. No heavy armour or shield so your
> fighter-thief will not be a 'tank' and will not have that weight to carry.
> Use Minsc to full effect.
> CON 16 Max - 16 essential but anything higher is a waste - no additional HP
> benefit above 16 unless pure fighter.
> WIS 10 - I would prefer to think my Rogue wise rather than clever 🙂
> Does WIS give spell resist benefits in BG1? (Can't remember). There are 3
> more WIS points available in play remember.
> INT 9/10 - double figures if you can. Or is a pair of planks really an
> alternative?
> CHA 10/12 - Reaction bonuses (better prices) start at CHA = 13 but an
> additional point is available with the first 'tome'.
>
> 15+18+16+10+9+12 = 80
>
> Colin E
>
> "Naomi" <griffinng@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:942aeea6.0408301309.2f23a1b8@posting.google.com...
> > I used to post here way back when. I don't know if anyone is here whom
> > used to know me?
> > Anyway, I am planning on starting up BG1 again and was wondering if
> > someone can pass on some tips to me about what attributes to give to
> > my fighter/thief (it's my fave class)? I know Imoen is a thief too, so
> > I don't need to strengthen my character in certain places, as she has
> > the skills.
> >
> > Thanks to anyone who can help (or refer me back to some old posts
> > about this matter) 🙂
> > Naomi

 

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Naomi wrote:

> I just basically want the two of them to have the best range of
> thieving skills between my dudette and Imoen... obviously preferring
> my own character to have the best thieving skills (whatever they may
> be!). I do tend to carry every single thing I find to take back to
> sell, my bartering skills leave a lot to be desired, I need to figure
> out which of the merchants pays the best prices.
>
> A friend of mine also just treated me to BG2, so now I have a dilemma
> of whether to play BG1 all the way through and then import my
> character to BG2, or whether to just forget about BG1. Was also
> wondering how that works... when you import your character to BG2,
> surely s/he ends up way tougher than if you started a character from
> scratch for BG2? Do the special items they've gathered along the way
> get carried over also?

I'll let others discuss the ramifications of splitting the thieving duties
between you and Imoen in BG1, and potential problems which might arise in
BG2 as a result of doing that.

As your character works her way through BG1, you'll have the opportunity to
increase certain of her stats via Tomes, so in that respect she could be
tougher than a character you create from scratch in BG2. It's quite possible
to finish BG1 with fewer experience points than you'd get creating a
"scratch" character in BG2, so if you rush through BG1, you'll be a little
shy on XP comparatively. Conversely, if you max out on XP in BG1 (and
ToSC), you'll have more than what you'd get with a new BG2 character, but I
don't remember what the exact difference is.

One more consideration is that if you're not running BG1tutu, there are
several classes in BG2 which are not available in BG1, e.g., Assassin,
Sorcerer, or Monk. So if you *want* to play a Monk (for example), you'll
have to create it from scratch.

There's only one item which might be carried from BG1 to BG2; it's part of a
"joke" quest which runs from BG1 almost to the end of ToB. I'll tell you
what that item is if you want to know, but I don't want to spoil it for you
if you want to discover the quest for yourself. The rest of your BG1 items
are all lost at the beginning of BG2.

Bob

 

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>Hi Colin,
>
>Sorry I haven't been back to post a reply until now... Been busy!
>
>Anyway, I don't even really know what alignment to make my character
>:-/ I just know that I liked Imoen when I played previously, but she
>and my fighter/ thief ended up with some of the same skills and both
>lacking in others. I think this is because I gave my thief the same
>stregths as Imoen before I started the game, not knowing what Imoen
>excelled in. Multi-class is where you can have two or more classes,
>right? In that case, I think I just want to dual-class.

If you are going to transpher your main character to BG 2 then I would multi
class because you will be stuck at the level of your first class if you Dual
class but if you Multi class you can continue to advance in both in BG 1 and BG
2 making a balanced character in both games.

>
> I just basically want the two of them to have the best range of
>thieving skills between my dudette and Imoen... obviously preferring
>my own character to have the best thieving skills (whatever they may
>be!).

Typically that is done by everyone especially in BG 1 and it won't affect BG 2
since you will reset your skills right when your transpher because BG 2 is
vastly different.

I do tend to carry every single thing I find to take back to
>sell, my bartering skills leave a lot to be desired, I need to figure
>out which of the merchants pays the best prices.


In BG 2 you get a bag of holding and scroll cases and potion bags and gem bags
and in the TOB watchers keep is an ammo belt to help with that. You can also
join my group and get a little mod to stack things higher and get those
containers to hold more. As well as a mod for BG 2 to start out with
containers and items from BG 1 from the begining of the game.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InfinityScripters/

>
>A friend of mine also just treated me to BG2, so now I have a dilemma
>of whether to play BG1 all the way through and then import my
>character to BG2, or whether to just forget about BG1.

If you want to play a Sorcerer, monk or a wild mage you can only create them in
BG 2. Otherwise playing BG 1 and then going on to BG 2 is fun. Use my
superscripts for BG 1 and then my superscripts for BG 2 and you will have a
really good time.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InfinityScripters/


Was also
>wondering how that works... when you import your character to BG2,
>surely s/he ends up way tougher than if you started a character from
>scratch for BG2?

Not really they take your items but if you played Tales the expansion you can
start at 161000 experince which is a bit more than without exporting. I do
have a mod to get containers and items from BG 1 right off if your interested.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InfinityScripters/


Do the special items they've gathered along the way
>get carried over also?


Nope but you do find some of them and the pantaloons show up in a picture of
course I have a mod to give you the pantaloons right off and yes they are
important. It also gives you bags and such and other items from BG 1 so people
really like it.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InfinityScripters/


>
>
>I'm going to print out your recommendations for stats, I'll never
>remember all of that 😛 Now I hope this gets posted to the group soon
>so I can get started. It's been so long since I've played any RPGs and
>I'm all excited to start again, hehe.

They are great games.

>
>Finally, just want to say that I'm sorry I don't have knowledge of all
>the lingo like I used to, being as I have a terrible memory, I've
>fogotten a lot of it! Maybe buying strategy books would help?!

There are several walkthroughs on the net sorcerers palace has most if not all
of them you need not buy and guides.


>
>Thanks for your help, if people don't mind, it'd be cool to have you
>send some tips to my email address (n_o_m_e_s_(at)hotmail(dot)com) @ .
>
>Naomi
>
>

>
>

 

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"Naomi" <griffinng@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi Colin,
>
> Sorry I haven't been back to post a reply until now... Been busy!
>
> Anyway, I don't even really know what alignment to make my character
> :-/ I just know that I liked Imoen when I played previously, but she
> and my fighter/ thief ended up with some of the same skills and both
> lacking in others. I think this is because I gave my thief the same
> stregths as Imoen before I started the game, not knowing what Imoen
> excelled in. Multi-class is where you can have two or more classes,
> right? In that case, I think I just want to dual-class.
>
You can dual Imoen to a mage if you got the thieving part covered.
And in BG2 she starts as a mage dualed from thief. Thieves are quite
powerful in BG2, and there aren't any good NPC ones.
>
> A friend of mine also just treated me to BG2, so now I have a dilemma
> of whether to play BG1 all the way through and then import my
> character to BG2, or whether to just forget about BG1. Was also
> wondering how that works... when you import your character to BG2,
> surely s/he ends up way tougher than if you started a character from
> scratch for BG2? Do the special items they've gathered along the way
> get carried over also?

No, your equipment from BG1 do not carry over (at least, not without
some quick space bar pressing). You shouldn't have any trouble with
BG2 even if you start from scratch. I'd skip over BG1, starting at
level 1 and getting owned by every goblin around the block gets old
really fast for me.
>
> I'm going to print out your recommendations for stats, I'll never
> remember all of that 😛 Now I hope this gets posted to the group soon
> so I can get started. It's been so long since I've played any RPGs and
> I'm all excited to start again, hehe.

Though you might consider a kensai dualed to thief. If you want multiclass
go with a half orc for the 19 strength.

 

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[posted to a.g.b-g and mailed to Naomi]

Bob wrote:

> As your character works her way through BG1, you'll have the opportunity to
> increase certain of her stats via Tomes, so in that respect she could be
> tougher than a character you create from scratch in BG2. It's quite possible
> to finish BG1 with fewer experience points than you'd get creating a
> "scratch" character in BG2, so if you rush through BG1, you'll be a little
> shy on XP comparatively. Conversely, if you max out on XP in BG1 (and
> ToSC), you'll have more than what you'd get with a new BG2 character, but I
> don't remember what the exact difference is.

The XP cap in BG1-without-TotSC is 89,000. That's the same as a
newly-created BG2 char starts with. An imported character beginning BG2
with fewer than 89,000 XP has his/her XP raised to that level.

The cap in BG1-with-TotSC is 161,000. A character imported to BG2 from
TotSC can start with more than 89,000 and as many as 161,000 XP.

--
Arian

Address me by name at North-net (with no hyphen), a 3-letter company
trading in the great south land.

 

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Arian wrote:

> An imported character beginning BG2
> with fewer than89,000XPhashisherXPraisedtothatlevel.

Now that's weird. Who ate all my spaces? I know I put them in.

It should say: "An imported character beginning BG2 with fewer than
89,000 XP has his/her XP raised to that level."

--
Arian

Address me by name at North-net (with no hyphen), a 3-letter company
trading in the great south land.

 

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Arian wrote:
> Arian wrote:
>
>> An imported character beginning BG2
>> with fewer than89,000XPhashisherXPraisedtothatlevel.
>
>
> Now that's weird. Who ate all my spaces? I know I put them in.
>
> It should say: "An imported character beginning BG2 with fewer than
> 89,000 XP has his/her XP raised to that level."

Your previous post does say that, on my screen. It seems the spaces are
only missing on yours.

 

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Arian wrote:

> Arian wrote:
>
>> An imported character beginning BG2
>> with fewer than89,000XPhashisherXPraisedtothatlevel.
>
>
> Now that's weird. Who ate all my spaces? I know I put them in.
>
> It should say: "An imported character beginning BG2 with fewer than
> 89,000 XP has his/her XP raised to that level."

Your previous post does say that (spaces included), on my screen. I
don't know what other people see, but the glitch didn't affect everyone.

 

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"Arian" <h7zfu9202@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:4142AAA7.2010500@sneakemail.com...
> [posted to a.g.b-g and mailed to Naomi]
>
> Bob wrote:
>
> > As your character works her way through BG1, you'll have the opportunity
to
> > increase certain of her stats via Tomes, so in that respect she could be
> > tougher than a character you create from scratch in BG2. It's quite
possible
> > to finish BG1 with fewer experience points than you'd get creating a
> > "scratch" character in BG2, so if you rush through BG1, you'll be a
little
> > shy on XP comparatively. Conversely, if you max out on XP in BG1 (and
> > ToSC), you'll have more than what you'd get with a new BG2 character,
but I
> > don't remember what the exact difference is.
>
> The XP cap in BG1-without-TotSC is 89,000. That's the same as a
> newly-created BG2 char starts with. An imported character beginning BG2
> with fewer than 89,000 XP has his/her XP raised to that level.
>
> The cap in BG1-with-TotSC is 161,000. A character imported to BG2 from
> TotSC can start with more than 89,000 and as many as 161,000 XP.
>
> --
> Arian

That is good to know. I have a character still in Baldur's Gate city (the
first time) that I want to import to BG2. I could just import her now and
not finish out the game, and still have as much experience as if I'd started
with a new character. If I play BG again, it's going to be with Tutu, which
requires a new game. I might Shadowkeeper in the stats from the
tomes--that's a tweak, not a cheat, right?

Cyn

 

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"Cynthia Crise" <CynCrise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> That is good to know. I have a character still in Baldur's Gate city (the
> first time) that I want to import to BG2. I could just import her now and
> not finish out the game, and still have as much experience as if I'd
started
> with a new character. If I play BG again, it's going to be with Tutu,
which
> requires a new game. I might Shadowkeeper in the stats from the
> tomes--that's a tweak, not a cheat, right?

It's not if you would have got them all anyway, it is a part of the game. I
ran through BG1 about six times on one char and they were far too strong
when I imported to BG2. This was singularly down to the getting the tomes
about six times ;-)

PM

 

[ddt]

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Does BG2 import characters at the exp points limit or at the exp points that
they have? IE. what if you had an exp cap removed in bg1. It seems to me
that it just checks for totsc or vanilla bg1 and sets the points
accordingly. I don't have my bg1 saves on hand or I could check.

trev



"Cynthia Crise" <CynCrise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:z061d.583802$Gx4.384504@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> "Arian" <h7zfu9202@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> news:4142AAA7.2010500@sneakemail.com...
> > [posted to a.g.b-g and mailed to Naomi]
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> >
> > > As your character works her way through BG1, you'll have the
opportunity
> to
> > > increase certain of her stats via Tomes, so in that respect she could
be
> > > tougher than a character you create from scratch in BG2. It's quite
> possible
> > > to finish BG1 with fewer experience points than you'd get creating a
> > > "scratch" character in BG2, so if you rush through BG1, you'll be a
> little
> > > shy on XP comparatively. Conversely, if you max out on XP in BG1 (and
> > > ToSC), you'll have more than what you'd get with a new BG2 character,
> but I
> > > don't remember what the exact difference is.
> >
> > The XP cap in BG1-without-TotSC is 89,000. That's the same as a
> > newly-created BG2 char starts with. An imported character beginning BG2
> > with fewer than 89,000 XP has his/her XP raised to that level.
> >
> > The cap in BG1-with-TotSC is 161,000. A character imported to BG2 from
> > TotSC can start with more than 89,000 and as many as 161,000 XP.
> >
> > --
> > Arian
>
> That is good to know. I have a character still in Baldur's Gate city (the
> first time) that I want to import to BG2. I could just import her now and
> not finish out the game, and still have as much experience as if I'd
started
> with a new character. If I play BG again, it's going to be with Tutu,
which
> requires a new game. I might Shadowkeeper in the stats from the
> tomes--that's a tweak, not a cheat, right?
>
> Cyn
>
>