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[blewerwes0]

Recently I purchased the msi big bang fuzion mother board 1156 socket, I currently have 2x mis 6950's, Lynnfield 860 i7, 8 gb 2x4 ripjaw ddr3 dual channel memory, my frio heatsink, and a bfg 100 watt psu. pc is oc to 3.9 ghz on air antec 902 case.

Upon Installing the hardware(big bang F) and checking all connnections ground screws, pin connectors, satas, and everything else, I turn the pc on and my dell monitor logo appears then nothing. Just a black screen. No bios, no startup, no windows screen, just black.

So I 1) reseated everything, result- nothing
2) redid connections to double check connections- everything was a ok, still black screen
3) replaced the 6950s w a 5850 result- black screen
4) replaced the 8 gb ram w 2x4 gb ripjaw ram result black screen
contacted MSI and they were dumbfounded, they walked me through everything that I had previously tried, still the dell logo then black screen. The pc powers on all light on mobo are blue indicating proper function, all fans continue to run at a low speed almost like an idle setting. black screen. Msi said to return the board to the place I bought it, but this was supposed to be a christmas gift i chose rapid delivery for add 30 bucks, and wanna avoid the wait for shipping there, back and the rma doa testing phase 1-7 busniess days if possible


If its any help, its not a clean install of anything, just swapping the older gap55-ud3p board w the big bang fuzion, but does that matter if i cant even get a bios screen, just stays black after my dell logo and pc runs at an idle fan speed

 

[HostileDonut]

Well, I am not a guru, but I can try to help some. Try plugging the DVI/VGA/HDMI/DP into a different port. Some video cards only use one port unit the other is needed I believe. Also, your dell monitor could be in "power saving mode". It does the same thing to my dell monitor sometimes, just tells me I am in power saving mode first. Unplug your monitor from your PC and turn off the monitor, turn the PC on, wait about 30 seconds, connect the monitor to the PC, and turn the monitor on again. That may work. Are there any error codes on the board? Did you bend a CPU socket pin?

That is all I can think of right now, I hope it works.

 

[blewerwes0]

Thanks for all your info, unfurtinately, Its not just the monitor, I hooked it to my tv as well (hdmi)- just black screen, As I said, ive switched the cards around, as well as put 5850s in no avail. No pins are bent or broken and all parts have been tested, and Im using them now on my older ga p55 mobo.

 

[GhislainG]

Thanks for all your info, unfurtinately, Its not just the monitor, I hooked it to my tv as well (hdmi)- just black screen, As I said, ive switched the cards around, as well as put 5850s in no avail. No pins are bent or broken and all parts have been tested, and Im using them now on my older ga p55 mobo.

If the only new part is the motherbaord, then it either is shorting out to the case (an extra post could do that) or it's defective. You should test it outside of the case and RMA it if it doesn't work.

 

[blewerwes0]

GhislainG ty Ive been reading alot of similar problems, giving advice on bench testing it, so Im gonna give it a go, also gonna post the results soon. TY everyone for the quick professional and polite responses.

 

[HostileDonut]

Thanks for all your info, unfurtinately, Its not just the monitor, I hooked it to my tv as well (hdmi)- just black screen, As I said, ive switched the cards around, as well as put 5850s in no avail. No pins are bent or broken and all parts have been tested, and Im using them now on my older ga p55 mobo.

The motherboard pins. I am saying maybe a motherboard CPU socket pin was bent. I am probably wrong, but might as well give a shot and check.

 

[blewerwes0]

OK so heres the update on the bench test, tested on the cardboard box of the mobo, same thing dell logo pops up all the lights on the mobo come one ex pcie light ram light, all indicating they are connected, once the dell splash logo dissapears the screen is black, so it wasnt a ground issue, also I tried to start up w/o a harddrive to see if i could just get the bios screen to show. But, I had no luck. THinking an rma is the only option. Once again reconnected older mobo and am using all components on it now. So they all work fine, and mobos are same socket 1156 compatible w the same parts

 

[HostileDonut]

Yeah, that sounds like a bad board because everything else works. Sorry you couldn't get a good answer.... 🙁

 

[blewerwes0]

and all the socket pins are fine, none are bent damaged or missing

 

[blewerwes0]

k thanks donut

 

[HostileDonut]

and all the socket pins are fine, none are bent damaged or missing

Yeah, I would say RMA it.

 

[blewerwes0]

what is baffeling me is why am i seeing the dell logo, its the only consistant thing each time

 

[GhislainG]

what is baffeling me is why am i seeing the dell logo, its the only consistant thing each time

The Dell logo gets displayed by the monitor as soon as it gets some signal. It definitely doesn't mean that it's getting a good signal from the GPU. If it did, you'd see info from the PC instead of the logo.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

If its any help, its not a clean install of anything, just swapping the older gap55-ud3p board w the big bang fuzion, but does that matter if i cant even get a bios screen, just stays black after my dell logo and pc runs at an idle fan speed

So you had this old HD, containing drivers for all the components on this Gigabyte gap55-ud3p Motherboard and now you changed Motherboards, of a different brand and with a new set of components thereon and you are wondering why it don't work ? It won't, not till you reinstall windows.

However, I would still expect you to be able to get into the BIOS.

Do you have the RAM in the correct slots ....check the manual.....?

Do you have 8 pin EPS connector plugged into MoBo ? (or 4 pin ATX) ?

Do you have CPU fan plugged in to MoBo header ?

Have you run memtest86+ ?

Do you have the monitor OSD set to the same input that you connected the cable to ?

Will it boot to Windows DvD ?

 

[HostileDonut]

The Dell logo gets displayed by the monitor as soon as it gets some signal. It definitely doesn't mean that it's getting a good signal from the GPU. If it did, you'd see info from the PC instead of the logo.

I believe I get a Dell logo without even plugging in the monitor to the computer. I believe it is built into the monitor to do that.

 

[GhislainG]

The logo definitely is from the monitor, but you should see it only when you power it up. Then it goes to standby unless it gets signal from the GPU.

 

[HostileDonut]

The logo definitely is from the monitor, but you should see it only when you power it up. Then it goes to standby unless it gets signal from the GPU.

Oh, yes. On some MSI boards, there should be an extra 4 or 8 pin connector for the video cards above the PCI-E slots, I don't think you need to plug it in until the cards draw more power, but make sure that is plugged in.

 

[lemlo]

So you had this old HD, containing drivers for all the components on this Gigabyte gap55-ud3p Motherboard and now you changed Motherboards, of a different brand and with a new set of components thereon and you are wondering why it don't work ? It won't, not till you reinstall windows.

Non sense. I have the same build of win 7 on a machine from 4 different motherboards, from an AMD 1090t to an i7 870 to a 2600k that has had the cougerpoint glitch to the replacement. Just had to re-verify authenticity for each. If this were back in the windows xp days you may be correct. This is no longer true.

 

[HostileDonut]

Non sense. I have the same build of win 7 on a machine from 4 different motherboards, from an AMD 1090t to an i7 870 to a 2600k that has had the cougerpoint glitch to the replacement. Just had to re-verify authenticity for each. If this were back in the windows xp days you may be correct. This is no longer true.

I believe he is talking about the drivers. You are running GIGABYTE drivers on an MSI board. I would try using the MSI drivers.

 

[GhislainG]

It wouldn't be true in XP because the chipset hasn't changed.

 

[GhislainG]

I believe he is talking about the drivers. You are running GIGABYTE drivers on an MSI board. I would try using the MSI drivers.

Gigabyte specific drivers won't load when an MSI motherboard is installed unless the hardware is the same. The chipset and other drivers are the same. Regardless, that wouldn't prevent the system from displaying info at POST which occurs before booting.

 

[scout_03]

just a question did you put your memory sticks in the black slots first and after putting the ati driver on for both card, did you install the lucid driver

 

[HostileDonut]

Gigabyte specific drivers won't load when an MSI motherboard is installed unless the hardware is the same. The chipset and other drivers are the same. Regardless, that wouldn't prevent the system from displaying info at POST which occurs before booting.

Yeah, you got a point. I believe it's a bad board.

 

[blewerwes0]

1st, like i said i cant get into bios, its a black screen so even if i did pop the disk in i couldnt read what it said. But yeah i tried that. Ram has been put in every slot to no avail. Ive weeded out the smaller possibilities. I understand i need the drivers from the new board, but how do i install drivers, when i cant boot into bios orwindows, and the old drivers shouldnt really matter when im testing for bios, and my hd is unplugged. But, regaurdless i should get some thing on the screen

 

[blewerwes0]

and in regaurds to gangis- that is true, but I switched the 6950s with my older 5850s way more compatable with the board, and the same thing