Question Help decide between R5 7600x and i5 13600k

[juaanmolero]

I'm building a new computer on black friday. I can get the 7600x for 224$ (624$ for MOBO + CPU + RAM) or get the i5 13600k for 255$ (645$ total for CPU + MOBO + RAM).

I'm trying to keep this computer for 5 years at least with the most fps I can.

I plan on streaming but doing the entire encoding with the RTX 4080 or 7900 XT.

But I usually do a lot while gaming, like, having discord open and like 8 tabs of google chrome, plus spotify and stuff like that.

Will the 7600x be enough for that much multitasking while gaming at max framerates all the new next gen games? Or will the 13600k with its 8 e-cores be better for that?

Also, will the DeepCool AK620 be enough cooling for the 13600k? I'm scared of how hot that cpu runs, I don't want to set a power limit or anything on it because the 7600x doesn't need that to perform at it's max while gaming.

I also usually game on medium settings, something I noticed when I built my first gaming pc which is the same I am using right now (2700x) , is that my cpu was almost on par with the 7700k at max settings, but when you lower the graphics my cpu isn't able to push more fps, which the 7700k indeed was able to. So I don't want to make the same mistake again. So basically right now it doesn't matter if I play at high or low settings my fps are almost the same, probably 10fps is what I gain at max.

 

[eazen]

If you want to upgrade the CPU again on the same platform, 100% go with AMD as the Intel platform is a dead end, 5 years sure sounds like it. 7600X is plenty for gaming with a few apps open in the background yes, but I recommend the 8 core (7700X) as they are pretty similar in price, and it’s just better, as you have more breathing room for everything.

 

[juaanmolero]

If you want to upgrade the CPU again on the same platform, 100% go with AMD as the Intel platform is a dead end, 5 years sure sounds like it. 7600X is plenty for gaming with a few apps open in the background yes, but I recommend the 8 core (7700X) as they are pretty similar in price, and it’s just better, as you have more breathing room for everything.

When I bought the 2700x I said that I was going to upgrade in a few years, and never did. So I don't think I will be upgrading, so I just want the best I can get right now

 

[eazen]

When I bought the 2700x I said that I was going to upgrade in a few years, and never did. So I don't think I will be upgrading, so I just want the best I can get right now

13600K has way more cores for the money.

 

[eazen]

I have checked the cooler and it should be fine.

2700X had low clocks that’s why it didn’t perform as good as 7700K in games unless you shifted the bottleneck to the GPU. This won’t be a problem with todays CPUs as they are all powerful in single core perf, which is what games often use.

 

[Phaaze88]

When I bought the 2700x I said that I was going to upgrade in a few years, and never did. So I don't think I will be upgrading,

Being able to upgrade later on the same socket isn't for everyone. Some prefer to ride out what they got. If you're gonna upgrade the whole platform(cpu/mobo/ram) anyway, might as well jump on the more mature one.
Intel and AMD having a misaligned number of cpu gens per socket throws things off a bit. 2 for Intel and 3 for AMD... so they'll only align around every 6 gens, which should be coming up within the next couple years, but you likely couldn't wait that long.
LGA 1700 would offer the more mature platform; AM5 'just started'.

But I usually do a lot while gaming, like, having discord open and like 8 tabs of google chrome, plus spotify and stuff like that.

That's gobbling ram. Not cpu.

Also, will the DeepCool AK620 be enough cooling for the 13600k? I'm scared of how hot that cpu runs...

Spoiler

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFgswzTvyc


Timestamps:
0:00 - Hot or Not?
1:03 - Air Cooling vs AIO's
2:23 - Intel 13th Gen & Power Levels
3:38 - Dodgy Motherboard Tactics
4:20 - Motherboards vs Intel Spec
6:09 - This Keeps Happening!
6:51 - All that Power for 150MHz!?
7:24 - Sensationalizing vs Reality
10:56 - 13600K Limits vs No Limits
12:51 - 13600K Rendering Temps vs Performance
14:21 - 13600K Gaming Temps vs Framerates
15:00 - So Much LESS to Worry About

 

[juaanmolero]

Being able to upgrade later on the same socket isn't for everyone. Some prefer to ride out what they got. If you're gonna upgrade the whole platform(cpu/mobo/ram) anyway, might as well jump on the more mature one.
Intel and AMD having a misaligned number of cpu gens per socket throws things off a bit. 2 for Intel and 3 for AMD... so they'll only align around every 6 gens, which should be coming up within the next couple years, but you likely couldn't wait that long.
LGA 1700 would offer the more mature platform; AM5 'just started'.


That's gobbling ram. Not cpu.

Spoiler

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFgswzTvyc


Timestamps:
0:00 - Hot or Not?
1:03 - Air Cooling vs AIO's
2:23 - Intel 13th Gen & Power Levels
3:38 - Dodgy Motherboard Tactics
4:20 - Motherboards vs Intel Spec
6:09 - This Keeps Happening!
6:51 - All that Power for 150MHz!?
7:24 - Sensationalizing vs Reality
10:56 - 13600K Limits vs No Limits
12:51 - 13600K Rendering Temps vs Performance
14:21 - 13600K Gaming Temps vs Framerates
15:00 - So Much LESS to Worry About

So you think that the 13600k will be more stable? After watching some videos I actually started liking the idea of maybe getting an 8600 or 9600 down the line, since AMD likes to lower prices a lot, specially at microcenter which is 10 min away from my house, like the 5600 was 110$ a month ago. So maybe an 8600 or 9600 will be that cheap in a couple of years. Anyway, if the 7600x is going to be unstable I'd rather go with the more stable cpu.

 

[eazen]

Anyway, if the 7600x is going to be unstable I'd rather go with the more stable cpu.

Nobody said that. The AM5 platform is stable, just maybe not yet on the same level of maturity as the intel one. Maturity != stability. It’s about details that will be different, not big things like stability.

 

[juaanmolero]

So now I'm scared of getting neither, I just saw that the officially supported ram speed for the 7600x is 5200 and the one for the 13600k is actually 5600. I don't want to run into the same problems that I ran with my 2700x, bsod and crashes all over the place because my ram isn't even stable at 3200mhz (I got a 3600 cl 16 kit) and right now it is running at 3200 cl18 or something. So I don't think I'm getting 6000 cl30 ram for the 7600x (In case I go with that one) and I don't think I'm going with 6400 cl32 ram, but instead I'm getting 5200 or 5600, in this case, which cpu is better?