Question Help for this New PC build 3ds max and corona rendering

[ronaldo_jr]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jmFbL9

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($579.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($131.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($336.19 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($194.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus ROG STRIX GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1449.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($159.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Amazon)

This is a 3ds max modelling and corona rendering build. gaming is second priority. I want ideas if i can get better parts for this build overall. Maybe save some cash also.

I was going for x670e boards first but i don't know what the difference is and from reviews i saw most people recommend b650 as they are cheaper and seem to do te job the same, as i dont need maybe all the ports. Don't know about performance though. If there is another model better than this i would appreciate the recommandation. Depending on the board i might neeed to change ram and storage probably.

 

[Lutfij]

IMHO, your entire build is fine as is. You could shave some off the build by going for a lower wattage PSU while still being within the RMx series.

Here's my submission, with a few tweaks;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($579.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($131.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($219.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($194.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1329.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2940.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-13 08:07 EDT-0400
in favor of stability, since you need to render.

 

[turtletarget111]

This seems like a well thought out system you've put together. Your choice of AMD makes sense for heavy rendering and modeling, motherboard and RAM, all solid choices.

The first part that gave me pause was your SSD selection. When the 990 Pro released, they had terrible performance, reliability, and durability. Reports of user's SSD's failing or near failure just a few month after purchase were common. As of February, it seems these issues have been fixed, but keep an eye out for firmware updates.

I would consider swapping your video card. The AMD RX 7900 XTX trades blows with the RTX 4080 in games, is over 400 dollars cheaper, and has more video memory. If you are doing any rendering or modeling off the video card, that increase in memory will give a massive edge in performance. You'll also get more life out of the 7900 XTX. As game textures get larger, more video memory is required to store those textures on the fast memory. A card with less memory will not perform as well as a card with more memory as newer games release over the coming years. The only reason I would go with the 4080 is if you prefer the Nvidia brand, or you use their proprietary features (DLSS, Ray Tracing, etc). I've linked to an Asus 7900 XTX here, for about $1000.00 but they can be found for as low as 800 dollars if you go with another brand.

To answer your inqiry about the motherboards: There are fewer dichotomies between motherboard tiers nowadays compared to previous generations. Even on the low end B650 you're getting PCIe 5.0 NVME support, WiFi 6E, and lots of expandability. The only benefits you'll reap from a higher tier board is increased bandwidth, meaning support for more USB ports. X670 and X670E for example, can both handle up to two USB 20Gbps versus B650 and B650E's one USB 20Gbps. You'll notice on the board you selected the one port supporting 20Gbps speed is the USB-C port near the WiFi antennae. The vast majority of people will not utilize the extra bandwidth, but if you are going to be transferring lots of files over USB frequently, you may want to consider a higher tier board. Hope this helped, take care.

 

[ronaldo_jr]

IMHO, your entire build is fine as is. You could shave some off the build by going for a lower wattage PSU while still being within the RMx series.

Here's my submission, with a few tweaks;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($579.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($131.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($219.95 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($194.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1329.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2940.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-13 08:07 EDT-0400
in favor of stability, since you need to render.

thank you for your time doing this.
I considered the tomahawk or the carbon so i might take it in consideration.
I could not find the rtx 4080 founders edition where im gonna assemble the pc so the rog strix was the best option. I'm also tempted a bit from the radeon 7900xtx since is much cheaper.
As for the psu i think i will stick with the 1000w limit as i wanna have a bit of room since i have had problems in the past :')

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Dont really need an AIO for 7950X, a good air cooler is sufficient.

the Strix mobo is overpriced, better models with same features available.

same for SSD and GPU models.

850W might be sufficient.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($579.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($40.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650E PG RIPTIDE WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: OLOy Blade RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($185.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Solidigm P44 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($97.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING AMP Extreme AIRO GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1123.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case ($72.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2480.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-13 09:14 EDT-0400

 

[ronaldo_jr]

This seems like a well thought out system you've put together. Your choice of AMD makes sense for heavy rendering and modeling, motherboard and RAM, all solid choices.

The first part that gave me pause was your SSD selection. When the 990 Pro released, they had terrible performance, reliability, and durability. Reports of user's SSD's failing or near failure just a few month after purchase were common. As of February, it seems these issues have been fixed, but keep an eye out for firmware updates.

I would consider swapping your video card. The AMD RX 7900 XTX trades blows with the RTX 4080 in games, is over 400 dollars cheaper, and has more video memory. If you are doing any rendering or modeling off the video card, that increase in memory will give a massive edge in performance. You'll also get more life out of the 7900 XTX. As game textures get larger, more video memory is required to store those textures on the fast memory. A card with less memory will not perform as well as a card with more memory as newer games release over the coming years. The only reason I would go with the 4080 is if you prefer the Nvidia brand, or you use their proprietary features (DLSS, Ray Tracing, etc). I've linked to an Asus 7900 XTX here, for about $1000.00 but they can be found for as low as 800 dollars if you go with another brand.

To answer your inqiry about the motherboards: There are fewer dichotomies between motherboard tiers nowadays compared to previous generations. Even on the low end B650 you're getting PCIe 5.0 NVME support, WiFi 6E, and lots of expandability. The only benefits you'll reap from a higher tier board is increased bandwidth, meaning support for more USB ports. X670 and X670E for example, can both handle up to two USB 20Gbps versus B650 and B650E's one USB 20Gbps. You'll notice on the board you selected the one port supporting 20Gbps speed is the USB-C port near the WiFi antennae. The vast majority of people will not utilize the extra bandwidth, but if you are going to be transferring lots of files over USB frequently, you may want to consider a higher tier board. Hope this helped, take care.

Thank you for this detailed response.
Since i was assembling a powerful pc i thought going for the best pieces thats why i chose the 990 but also considered wd black sn850x or 980 pro. Are those better>?
As for the card this has been my main dilemma. but as you say the 7900xtx is a big save in money and i dont particularly need the gpu for the corona rendering process. I dont understand much about the dlss and ray tracing so i might follow in your steps
I dont need the ports i thought maybe the x670e are more future proof or more resistent but if not i can continue in the 650 area.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

the B650E got pcie 5.0 M.2 port for SSD upgrades

the riptide has solid VRMs for full throttle CPU usage.

the P5 plus and P44 pro both have good random read write speeds and near top sequential speeds.

 

[turtletarget111]

Thank you for this detailed response.
Since i was assembling a powerful pc i thought going for the best pieces thats why i chose the 990 but also considered wd black sn850x or 980 pro. Are those better>?
As for the card this has been my main dilemma. but as you say the 7900xtx is a big save in money and i dont particularly need the gpu for the corona rendering process. I dont understand much about the dlss and ray tracing so i might follow in your steps
I dont need the ports i thought maybe the x670e are more future proof or more resistent but if not i can continue in the 650 area.

Let's start with your SSD. I would really stick with Samsung. The only other brand I'd consider would be Sabrent. Like I mentioned earlier, it seems the 990 bugs have been resolved, and the 990 is only ten dollars more than the 980 for faster performance. Just keep an eye on the drive. On the other hand, if you have a lot of important data you can't afford to lose, it might be better to switch to the 980. Proven reliability and durability, with real world performance coming close to the 990.

If you aren't going to use Nvidia's features then switch to the 7900 XTX. It's cheaper and offers equal or better performance in rasterized games.

If you are not married to the ROG brand you will be able to find an X670E for around the 300 dollar price range. ROG products have a massive price markup. Here's a similarly priced X670E motherboard. I would go with this over the ROG board, as you're getting more expandability for the same price.

I also wanted to throw my opinion in with the other suggestions here. The RAM, power supply and cooler are all great choices. The RAM in particular you selected in your original list is quite literally perfect, as it has extremely low CAS latency, low First Word latency, and AMD Expo support. Perfect for Ryzen systems. The power supply is also a solid choice. You might not need the extra juice, but power supplies degrade over time, and for only 30 dollars more it just doesn't make sense to go with an 850 watt unit. I understand the argument to be made for air coolers, because they are substantially more reliable and much cheaper, but with the current budget it really comes down to preference. Arctic makes great AIOs. Hope this helped, take care.

 

[ronaldo_jr]

Let's start with your SSD. I would really stick with Samsung. The only other brand I'd consider would be Sabrent. Like I mentioned earlier, it seems the 990 bugs have been resolved, and the 990 is only ten dollars more than the 980 for faster performance. Just keep an eye on the drive. On the other hand, if you have a lot of important data you can't afford to lose, it might be better to switch to the 980. Proven reliability and durability, with real world performance coming close to the 990.

If you aren't going to use Nvidia's features then switch to the 7900 XTX. It's cheaper and offers equal or better performance in rasterized games.

If you are not married to the ROG brand you will be able to find an X670E for around the 300 dollar price range. ROG products have a massive price markup. Here's a similarly priced X670E motherboard. I would go with this over the ROG board, as you're getting more expandability for the same price.

I also wanted to throw my opinion in with the other suggestions here. The RAM, power supply and cooler are all great choices. The RAM in particular you selected in your original list is quite literally perfect, as it has extremely low CAS latency, low First Word latency, and AMD Expo support. Perfect for Ryzen systems. The power supply is also a solid choice. You might not need the extra juice, but power supplies degrade over time, and for only 30 dollars more it just doesn't make sense to go with an 850 watt unit. I understand the argument to be made for air coolers, because they are substantially more reliable and much cheaper, but with the current budget it really comes down to preference. Arctic makes great AIOs. Hope this helped, take care.

Thanks so much for your help.
I also considered the tuf gaming x670e but i didnt know if it was better than the b650 types mentioned above.
For the cooler i was going first for the noctua nh-d15s but since the cpu is a hot type and i liked more this type of case i went for the safest choice, since the price was almost identical.

 

[ronaldo_jr]

Dont really need an AIO for 7950X, a good air cooler is sufficient.

the Strix mobo is overpriced, better models with same features available.

same for SSD and GPU models.

850W might be sufficient.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($579.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($40.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650E PG RIPTIDE WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: OLOy Blade RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($185.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Solidigm P44 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($97.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING AMP Extreme AIRO GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1123.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case ($72.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2480.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-13 09:14 EDT-0400

This are a lot of changes and my 2 month research goes to the bin 😅 the changes you suggested are not available where i will get my parts but thank you anyway for your opinion.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

if you dont mind me asking, which website do you use to see the pc parts available in your country? and your budget.