Help getting 3.6ghz on q6600 and p5q

[infected_]

I've been able to overclock it to 3.4ghz with the following bios configs:

FSB: 425
MULTI: 8
DDR's: 1066Mhz
Vcore: 1.4000
CPU GTL: AUTO
CPU PLL: 0.58
FSB TERMINATION: 1.40
DRAM VOLTAGE: AUTO
NB VOLTAGE: 1.36
SB VOLTAGE: 1.20
PCI SATA: 1.50

Which values to do 3.6ghz??

FSB: 400?
MULTI: 9?
DDR's: 1066Mhz
Vcore: 1.4750 ?? more?
CPU GTL: AUTO
CPU PLL: ??
FSB TERMINATION: ??
DRAM VOLTAGE: AUTO
NB VOLTAGE: ??
SB VOLTAGE: 1.20 ??
PCI SATA: 1.50

The cpu as a vid of 1.325

I appreciate any help you experts can give me..

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=419422

Thanks.

 

[faster3200]

You will be able to go higher with a 9x multi than with an 8x. Also, what are your load temps? You might need to up your vcore if you have a large vdroop.

 

[infected_]

You paid for 2.4ghz, your getting 3.4, why do you need 3.6?

The Q6600 is an aging processor based on 65nm. Your unlikely to get any more on air at 65nm.

Ive seen cpus with the same vid and on air hitting 3.6....

 

[rojito]

multi 9X, but it all depends on your HSF, it's difficult to get 3.6GHz out of a Q6600 due to heat, not to voltage.

 

[dagger]

Heat is not a problem if you have even a half decent air cooler. I get 57-60C(variable among cores) at 3.6ghz and 66-69C at 4ghz.

For 3.6ghz on high vid g0 q6600, use 1.45-1.5 vcore, 1600mhz fsb, 9x multiplier. P45 runs at 1600mhz fsb natively, don't increase chipset voltage. Turn on loadline calibration if it's supported by the board.

 

[cory1234]

I have a B3 Q6600 and have my cpu set to 3.0@1.3v. 3.4v@1.45v(starts to get a little hot) on a thermalright ultra 120 extreme w/ scythe f-flex fan.

I would recommend water cooling for a ghz overclock or more on these processors.

 

[doomturkey]

I've seen evil knevel jump 31 cars on a motorcycle, does that mean you can do it too......besides, it surely wont last very long at that.

Stop being so pessimistic. My Q6600 easily does 3.6 (stable) on air.

My settings are something like this (VID = 1.3000V):
FSB: 400mhz
Multi: 9x
CPU voltage: 1.48125V
FSB: DRAM : 1:1 (DDR2 800)
RAM Voltage: 2.1V
RAM timings: 4-4-4-12

I left everything else on automatic.
You will probably need more voltage than me because your VID is slightly higher. I recommend 1.5V.

 

[eodeo]

sheila,

thank you for your imput, but c2q 6600 should easily reach 3.6ghz on a decent mobo/memory with a nice cooling- no water required.

either help the man or dont discourage him. We all know dangers of overclocking, but also the benefits.

 

[geofelt]

If your objective is to see how high you can overclock, and the accompanying bragging rights, then go to it. Your results will be determined by your skill, bank account, and how lucky you were in buying an exceptional chip. They do vary.

If your objective is better gaming performance, then anything over 3.0 or so won't make much difference in almost all games. The vga card is much more important.

If you have an application that is cpu bound, and uses all 4 cores, then overclocking can be good.

Otherwise, don't bother much.

 

[modtech]

Maybe he wants to encode movies. In that case an overclocked quad core really flies. Compiling with the gnu compiler is also a pleasuring experience with quad cores.

 

[dagger]

Quad vs dual in gaming.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q6600_8.html

 

[geofelt]

Quad vs dual in gaming.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q6600_8.html

Dagger, I'll call your link and raise with : http://www.guru3d.com/article/cpu-scaling-in-games-with-quad-core-processors/
Your link compared the Q6600 with a E6850. The E8400 is a faster cpu than the E6850, even though the clock speeds are the same.
It's worth reading both, because the conclusions are different.

 

[doomturkey]

Quad vs dual in gaming.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q6600_8.html

I like that link.

 

[faster3200]

I would like to add this to the conversation of the last three posts. The Guru 3D article seems more like the conclusion is cpu=pointless for gaming instead of dual core is equal.

 

[dagger]

You have to keep in mind, none of them test overclocking. The Legionshardware one overclocked some chips, but not q6600 for comparison. Guru3d just tested stock 2.4ghz q6600 against 3.0ghz e8400, and end up with a few fps gain in some games, none in others. Only the xbitlab one I linked earlier tested both dual and quad core clocked at similar rates, which illustrates how duals/quads behave.

 

[infected_]

Tried this settings on auto because of the bus of 1600mhz that the board does..

FSB: 400
MULTI: 9
DDR's: 1066Mhz
Vcore: 1.5
CPU GTL: AUTO
CPU PLL: AUTO
FSB TERMINATION: AUTO
DRAM VOLTAGE: AUTO
NB VOLTAGE: AUTO
SB VOLTAGE: AUTO
PCI SATA: AUTO

But it still crashes after 2 minutes of prime..

 

[dagger]

Tried this settings on auto because of the bus of 1600mhz that the board does..

FSB: 400
MULTI: 9
DDR's: 1066Mhz
Vcore: 1.5
CPU GTL: AUTO
CPU PLL: AUTO
FSB TERMINATION: AUTO
DRAM VOLTAGE: AUTO
NB VOLTAGE: AUTO
SB VOLTAGE: AUTO
PCI SATA: AUTO

But it still crashes after 2 minutes of prime..

Run cpuz during stressing and see how much of a vdroop you get. Also keep eye on temperature.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

Also, decrease ram to 800 at 1:1 ratio to rule it out as possible cause of instability.

 

[infected_]

Run cpuz during stressing and see how much of a vdroop you get. Also keep eye on temperature.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

Also, decrease ram to 800 at 1:1 ratio to rule it out as possible cause of instability.

I have run cpuz during prime and it shows 1.408v, the bios definition that ive set was 1.40000. is that vdroop?

 

[faster3200]

Ummm, that is strange. That looks more like vUP, lol. It could be that CPU-Z isn't reading properly or that you don't have any droop. vdroop means that your vcore decreases during load.

For example, my mobo has pretty bad vdroop and during SuperPi 1M will drop from 1.56v to 1.51v.

 

[infected_]

my board as no drop then

Son anyone as any ideas in which settings to put?

 

[cd14]

Ummm, that is strange. That looks more like vUP, lol. It could be that CPU-Z isn't reading properly or that you don't have any droop. vdroop means that your vcore decreases during load.

For example, my mobo has pretty bad vdroop and during SuperPi 1M will drop from 1.56v to 1.51v.

My PQ5 Deluxe does the same thing. Instead of going down the vcore is raised during a load. I do have Loadline Calibration on. The max FSB on the PQ5 seems to be about 490.

As for your problem, looks like your ram is a bit high on 5-5-5-15 for PC6400:

RAM : 4096 MB DDR2 Dual Channel
RAM Speed : 531.3 MHz (4:5) @ 5-5-5-15
Slot 1 : 2048MB (PC2-6400)
Slot 1 Manufacturer : Team Group Inc.
Slot 2 : 2048MB (PC2-6400)
Slot 2 Manufacturer : Team Group Inc.

You might have to set your timings manually or lower your ram speed (it will probably be your ram speed that you need to slowdown). On my "auto" setting the BIOS will set it at 5-5-5-18 no matter what. It doesn't compensate for the higher FSB. The is odd, because my other boards will relax them when going higher.

My B3 Q6600 will not stay stable at 3.6 on this board or any board. I can manage 3.33 which is in a good safety range. As for my Q9450, I was able to squeeze another 240 mhz by using the deluxe version of the PQ5.

 

[infected_]

my rams are 2gbx2 teamgroup xtreeem dark pc2 8500 5-5-5-15 so they are ok as they are. i dont think its a ram issue.

 

[cd14]

my rams are 2gbx2 teamgroup xtreeem dark pc2 8500 5-5-5-15 so they are ok as they are. i dont think its a ram issue.

Okay, the info was taken from your CPU-Z screenshot.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=419422

 

[infected_]

anyone? please