Help me build a PC?

[Broken3D]

Hey guys,
anyone suggest a build within £400:
That: will run any currently released game ultra with a stable 50fps+
WHILE recording the gameplay. basically I want to get a gaming pc so good that it will be able to run most games on ultra smoothly while recording.
now I understand my budget is pretty low for what I'm asking, but I'm able to put the pc together myself, hence that should save something

Please suggest what graphics card i should get. AMD build please
I was thinking of R9 270x as that's the cheapest in the R9 series, around £120. what processor should I get with that to be able to play and stream/record?
and any other parts worth mentioning
thanks guys

 

[Littlesackninja]

You cannot build a rig for £400 right now and get ultra 50+ fps.

 

[Broken3D]

You cannot build a rig for £400 right now and get ultra 50+ fps.

let's say I was to get this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-FAST-Quad-Core-8GB-1TB-Desktop-Gaming-PC-Computer-4-2Ghz-AMD-HD-/191025096255?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2c79fba63f

and add the R9 270x to it. How good would that be?
would the processor be able to keep up with the GPU?

 

[logainofhades]

Forget Ultra

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£81.99 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 V2 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£38.74 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£30.89 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 260X 2GB Core Edition Video Card (£76.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case (£26.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£31.55 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£69.65 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £391.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-26 21:41 BST+0100

 

[logainofhades]

You cannot build a rig for £400 right now and get ultra 50+ fps.

let's say I was to get this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-FAST-Quad-Core-8GB-1TB-Desktop-Gaming-PC-Computer-4-2Ghz-AMD-HD-/191025096255?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2c79fba63f

and add the R9 270x to it. How good would that be?
would the processor be able to keep up with the GPU?

It wouldn't be very good at all. That is a horrible processor for gaming.

 

[plywrlw]

This is the best I can do. It won't do ultra in brand new games but should do high/med. Give the processor a solid overclock and it will outperform an i3 in multi-threaded games like BF4.

With such a low budget you either need to lower your expectations or raise your budget and get an fx PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£71.52 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS10X OPTIMA CPU Cooler (£16.90 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£47.94 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F1 DT 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£29.97 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card (£119.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£29.96 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £402.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-26 21:48 BST+0100

 

[Littlesackninja]

This is the best I can do. It won't do ultra in brand new games but should do high/med. Give the processor a solid overclock and it will outperform an i3 in multi-threaded games like BF4.

With such a low budget you either need to lower your expectations or raise your budget and get an fx PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£71.52 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS10X OPTIMA CPU Cooler (£16.90 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£47.94 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F1 DT 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£29.97 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card (£119.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£29.96 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £402.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-26 21:48 BST+0100

For £4 the Hyper 212 Evo from CM is much better than almost any zalman cooler.

 

[plywrlw]

When I was compiling the prices the hyper 212 evo was £28 so if it's now just £21 then I agree it's a bargain


P.S. The rest of my sentence was supposed to read "raise your budget and get an fx8320"

I must have chopped off the end when pasting from pcpartpicker.com

 

[Littlesackninja]

The FX-6300 is the same as the 8320 in gaming, but in workstation tasks, rendering, and streaming, the 8320 might be a a good upgrade.

 

[mdocod]

For £4 the Hyper 212 Evo from CM is much better than almost any zalman cooler.

I have very good reason to believe that the "chart topping" performance we see in HSF reviews for the 212EVO are the result of a bit of a "trick" that falls apart when the heatsink is called upon to dissipate higher thermal loads.

I believe the 212EVO's chart topping performance in tests ~150W and under stems from heatpipes with less liquid and more vacuum, resulting in the excitement of the phase change cycle in the heatpipes at lower temps than other competing heatpipe coolers. I believe this has the effect of making the 212EVO appear to have performance comparable to much more expensive, and much larger heatsinks in low dissipation comparisons. As the thermal input rises above that ~150W level, and more and more of the liquid in the heatpipes is forced into vapor state, the chart topping performance begins to dissolve. I've seen enough reports of FX-8XXX users trying to overclock on the 212EVO and running out of thermal headroom at relatively low volts and clocks to know that something is amiss about the performance of this cooler in reviews vs real world on high dissipation FX chips.

When we overclock FX-6300/8320/8350's, power dissipation at the chip rises to the 150-300W territory depending on the leakage characteristics of the chip, voltage and clock speeds. At these dissipation levels, bigger heatpipes, more heatpipes, and heatpipes with more liquid in them will pull ahead of the 212EVO. Often comparisons will show larger heatsinks performing worse than the 212EVO at <150W power levels, this trend does seem to reverse as we approach and exceed the 200W territory.

The Zalman CNPS9900 MAX, CNPS10X Performa, and CNPS14X are ALL stronger performers in the 200W+ class. One of my favorite inexpensive coolers right now is the Arctic A30. with 4x8mm heatpipes it is capable of keeping FX chips within their thermal margins at dissipation levels of 200-250W on the stock fan and is usually priced about the same as the 212EVO.