Help me choose a CPU

[Justn]

Hi everyone, I'm going to Build a PC in Few Days and It seems I'm confused with Processor and MoBo . I have 2 Choices .

Intel Core i5 4430 with MSI Z87-G43 MoBo
or
AMD FX 8350 with MSI 990FXA-GD65

I don't have any problem with Power Consumption and Heat Generation of Processor or with Intel and AMD .

I'm building this PC for Gaming on Ultra Settings and a bit of Video Editing .

P.S - I heard people saying that Intel Works Good with Nvidia and AMD with ATi Card . I know that AMD and ATi works Good together but is it true that Intel works Good with Nvidia ? because I'm getting a Asus GTX 770 DirectCUII OC 2GB so will It work better with Intel or It'll perform same on both AMD and Intel ?

 

[herrwizo]

For video editing or if you plan to overclock I'd go with the FX 8350. If you don't plan to overclock and for gaming, i5 4430. Not too much of a difference, just define your preferences, both CPUs will everything you need.

As for Nvidia / AMD / Intel compatibility talks, that's all cr*p. They all work in all combinations. Pick whatever you like and enjoy.

 

[i7Baby]

The FX8350 will be better for editing but about the same for gaming as the i5. I'd go with the fx8350 and 990fx mobo.

 

[pcbuilder1997]

10 years ago, yes, this would make a HUGE difference. Today it is really all about preference. Intel and AMD are pretty much neck and neck right now. Intel has mastered the art of low power consumption, and low temps. AMD is constantly pushing the edge of tomorrow. I predict within the next year or so intel will convert to all mobile apps. Such as smart boxes for tvs and micro computers for businesses since they have mastered the temps and low power consumption. AMD is constanly pushing the envelope for faster CPUs. when i build a system for a client i'll ask them right out of the gate if the PC is for gaming or just everyday use for the next 5 or so years. Gaming - Amd, Every day use - Intel.
But when it comes down to it, it's really all about preference. i feel you get more for your money when it comes to gaming with AMD.
As far as video cards. It does not really matter anymore due to the architecture of the cards. for my gaming rig i have an amd 8350 OC'd paired with a gtx 770. for my editing/production rig i have an amd 6100 OC'd with an R9 270X card.
nVidia based cards i feel are more responsive in the gaming world vs. AMD's cards i feel are more responsive in the production/editing world.
Today it is simply based on preference and I am guessing you do not have tons of money to just throw around. If you were gaming i would choose an AMD processor paired with an nVidia based GPU simply because i feel that this pairing is more responsive in the gaming world.
You will have more power under the hood with the FX.. and i would change the motherboard to an Asus, Gigabyte, or ASrock board. - better experience with these brands. (more reliable, easier returns and help, etc.)
PSU - DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON THIS. a cheap PSU does more damage in the long run than what it would cost to just buy a nice PSU (corsair is arguably the best consumer power supply, i use it in all of my builds.)
Best of luck,
Hope i helped, if you need more lemme know.
~J

 

[bicycle_repair_man]

My vote would go to the i5 but you can save a few pennies by opting for a different motherboard. The one you've selected has a chipset which allows for overclocking, but the processor has a locked multiplier. If you did want to get into overclocking that motherboard would be beneficial, and you can always swap the processor as and when you wanted. If overclocking isn't your thing, opt for a different motherboard.

Intel will naturally say that their processors work better with Nvidia, seeing as they're built by the same people. Same goes for AMD. The truth is that you can mix and match components however you like, just make sure that you have a good balance. What you don't want is a powerful processor with a weak graphics card.

 

[Rationale]

The i5-4430 will end up being the stronger CPU in most games and general use, but the FX-8350 will be faster in video editing.

If you get the i5, you don't need that motherboard. You can either go for an H97 board to increase future proofing for roughly the same price, or go with a B85 board to save money. But getting a Z87 chipset is pointless for an i5-4430. The i5-4430 is locked, and even if it wasn't, no haswell i5 needs to be overclocked to be a great gaming CPU anyway.
This motherboard is better than the one you've currently picked out for the i5-4430.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157511&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

 

[pcbuilder1997]

bicycle_repair_man is right, if you don't have them balanced, it will be like putting a 500HP engine in a VW beetle. Doesn't make sense. You will bottleneck the power of the computer.
That being said, spend the money on the Unlocked FX processor so the chipset does not block the nVidia card's capabilities. AMD wanted to have the FX model paired with the R9 graphics series. so it may bottle neck your card because the way the processor is made - almost like an APU.
I would go with the amd phenom II x6 black edition (maybe 965). That processor is just raw processor power. Fabulous processor in my opinion.
Sorry for the rant,
~J

 

[Rationale]

if the PC is for gaming or just everyday use for the next 5 or so years. Gaming - Amd, Every day use - Intel.
But when it comes down to it, it's really all about preference. i feel you get more for your money when it comes to gaming with AMD.

If you were gaming i would choose an AMD processor paired with an nVidia based GPU simply because i feel that this pairing is more responsive in the gaming world.
You will have more power under the hood with the FX..
~J

That is completely untrue. Even in Watchdogs and BF4, the two most heavily multithreaded 8-core games, an i5 beats an FX-8350 at stock, and an i3-4130 is extremely close to the FX-8350, beating out the FX-6300.

What "you feel" is irrelevant in the PC world. Hard stats matter, and the FX series is behind in games.

 

[pcbuilder1997]

The i5-4430 will end up being the stronger CPU in most games and general use, but the FX-8350 will be faster in video editing.

If you get the i5, you don't need that motherboard. You can either go for an H97 board to increase future proofing for roughly the same price, or go with a B85 board to save money. But getting a Z87 chipset is pointless for an i5-4430. The i5-4430 is locked, and even if it wasn't, no haswell i5 needs to be overclocked to be a great gaming CPU anyway.
This motherboard is better than the one you've currently picked out for the i5-4430.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157511&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

I disagree to the i5 statement. I have run DAYS of testing with OC's, unlocked, stock pretty much everything with those processors. Intel just stays cooler and uses less energy.
It is all about preference.

 

[pcbuilder1997]

if the PC is for gaming or just everyday use for the next 5 or so years. Gaming - Amd, Every day use - Intel.
But when it comes down to it, it's really all about preference. i feel you get more for your money when it comes to gaming with AMD.

If you were gaming i would choose an AMD processor paired with an nVidia based GPU simply because i feel that this pairing is more responsive in the gaming world.
You will have more power under the hood with the FX..
~J

Ignorance is bliss.
That is completely untrue. Even in Watchdogs and BF4, the two most heavily multithreaded 8-core games, an i5 beats an FX-8350 at stock, and an i3-4130 is extremely close to the FX-8350, beating out the FX-6300.

What "you feel" is irrelevant in the PC world. Hard stats matter, and the FX series is behind in games.

 

[Rationale]

The i5-4430 will end up being the stronger CPU in most games and general use, but the FX-8350 will be faster in video editing.

If you get the i5, you don't need that motherboard. You can either go for an H97 board to increase future proofing for roughly the same price, or go with a B85 board to save money. But getting a Z87 chipset is pointless for an i5-4430. The i5-4430 is locked, and even if it wasn't, no haswell i5 needs to be overclocked to be a great gaming CPU anyway.
This motherboard is better than the one you've currently picked out for the i5-4430.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157511&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

I disagree to the i5 statement. I have run DAYS of testing with OC's, unlocked, stock pretty much everything with those processors. Intel just stays cooler and uses less energy.
It is all about preference.

Nearly every test on the internet disagrees with you, so I can't exactly take your word for that.

 

[pcbuilder1997]

if the PC is for gaming or just everyday use for the next 5 or so years. Gaming - Amd, Every day use - Intel.
But when it comes down to it, it's really all about preference. i feel you get more for your money when it comes to gaming with AMD.

If you were gaming i would choose an AMD processor paired with an nVidia based GPU simply because i feel that this pairing is more responsive in the gaming world.
You will have more power under the hood with the FX..
~J

That is completely untrue. Even in Watchdogs and BF4, the two most heavily multithreaded 8-core games, an i5 beats an FX-8350 at stock, and an i3-4130 is extremely close to the FX-8350, beating out the FX-6300.

What "you feel" is irrelevant in the PC world. Hard stats matter, and the FX series is behind in games.

That was simply stated to help with the financial side of things. Intel knows that they mastered the power and temp rates. So they charge more. that's all. and the rate's you are getting are probably frame rates. The human eye only needs 30 frames per second (FPS) to see fluid motion.
I am completely UNbiased either way - intel or AMD.
just trying to help people get what they want for the benefit of money.
~J

 

[pcbuilder1997]

The i5-4430 will end up being the stronger CPU in most games and general use, but the FX-8350 will be faster in video editing.

If you get the i5, you don't need that motherboard. You can either go for an H97 board to increase future proofing for roughly the same price, or go with a B85 board to save money. But getting a Z87 chipset is pointless for an i5-4430. The i5-4430 is locked, and even if it wasn't, no haswell i5 needs to be overclocked to be a great gaming CPU anyway.
This motherboard is better than the one you've currently picked out for the i5-4430.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157511&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

I disagree to the i5 statement. I have run DAYS of testing with OC's, unlocked, stock pretty much everything with those processors. Intel just stays cooler and uses less energy.
It is all about preference.

Nearly every test on the internet disagrees with you, so I can't exactly take your word for that.

Guess in the next year or so, we'll see.