help me choose between 2 builds(r5 1600 or i5 4690k)

[zpirit]

wich is a better deal? this : https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BQwz8K for 1100$ can
or this:
- Boîtier Phanteks Enthoo Pro Full Tower
- Power Supply Cooler Master 650W
- Carte Mère MSI Z97S SLI Krait Édition
- Processeur Intel Core i5 4690K Unlocked 3.5GHz/3.9GHz
- Refroidisseur Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
- Mémoire Kingston HyperX Fury 16Gb DDR3-1866
- Disque Dur Western Digital 1Tb 7200 RPM
- Disque SSD Kingston 120 Gb
- Carte Vidéo Asus Geforce GTX970 Strix 4Gb
- Écran BenQ 24" Full HD 4ms
- Clavier et Souris
- Windows 10 Famille Installé
for 950$can

 

[TJ Hooker]

I'd go with the Ryzen build. If you're building it yourself (or can configure it), there are probably some tweaks you can make, but if you're buying a preconfigured PC it's pretty good as is.

Edit: didn't notice that the Intel build came with monitor and operating system while the Ryzen build does not. The Ryzen build will perform better (and has better upgrade path), but the Intel build will likely have better performance per dollar.

 

[SkyNetRising]

Intel build has more ram, monitor included and costs less.
Gaming performance will be pretty similar.
I'd choose Intel build. Significantly better value.

 

[Vic 40]

Double thread,
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3613930/ryzen-1600-gtx-1060-6gb-1100-4790k-970-4gb-950.html

 

[spdragoo]

Storage (type & size): Ryzen build is better
CPU: edge to the Ryzen with higher-threaded applications, game-wise probably similar
GPU: technically the same (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html). However, I believe there are some games where the 1060 will provide slightly better performance than the 970, & going forward that's going to become more common.
RAM: edge to the Intel build for amount. Speed, however, technically still goes to the Ryzen build.

However, I do have a couple of questions. First, is that Intel-based build a prebuilt system, or just an alternative from PCPartPicker? Also, the parts link for the Ryzen build is showing a different price now, which theoretically skews you more towards the Intel build...but I'm guessing that the Intel build might be a limited-time offer, plus I'd be reluctant to recommend a Haswell build at this point due to the lack of upgradeability. Finally, there are some ways you could reduce costs on the Ryzen build:
-- unless you're not going to hardwire into your router, you don't need a WiFi adapter on your desktop.
-- The included Wraith cooler is enough for some light- to medium overclocking, so the Hyper 212 isn't needed.
-- Unless you're going to do a lot of simultaneous streaming or encoding, the extra 2 cores/4 threads of the R5 1600 probably aren't necessary. You could save a bit by dropping down to the R5 1400.

 

[vapour]

The Intel build is oooold platform and I assume it is used? SSD too small. I will get this optimized Ryzen build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($110.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($245.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($111.25 @ shopRBC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB ARMOR OCV1 Video Card ($409.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: NZXT - Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill - N900PCE PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($27.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1380.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-10 15:13 EST-0500

1600's stock cooler is good enough for OC to ~3.8, Tomahawk is good mb and 16 gb 3200 G.Skill ram is what Ryzen loves, Crucial and Samsung ssd has no obvious diff if only gaming and normal usage. 550 good quality psu is good enough, you can pick any ATX case you like

 

[lonnyeandres]

I'll choose ryzen it's a bit better and also it's newer and have support for DDR4 and some better features

 

[zpirit]

Storage (type & size): Ryzen build is better
CPU: edge to the Ryzen with higher-threaded applications, game-wise probably similar
GPU: technically the same (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html). However, I believe there are some games where the 1060 will provide slightly better performance than the 970, & going forward that's going to become more common.
RAM: edge to the Intel build for amount. Speed, however, technically still goes to the Ryzen build.

However, I do have a couple of questions. First, is that Intel-based build a prebuilt system, or just an alternative from PCPartPicker? Also, the parts link for the Ryzen build is showing a different price now, which theoretically skews you more towards the Intel build...but I'm guessing that the Intel build might be a limited-time offer, plus I'd be reluctant to recommend a Haswell build at this point due to the lack of upgradeability. Finally, there are some ways you could reduce costs on the Ryzen build:
-- unless you're not going to hardwire into your router, you don't need a WiFi adapter on your desktop.
-- The included Wraith cooler is enough for some light- to medium overclocking, so the Hyper 212 isn't needed.
-- Unless you're going to do a lot of simultaneous streaming or encoding, the extra 2 cores/4 threads of the R5 1600 probably aren't necessary. You could save a bit by dropping down to the R5 1400.

thank you, and oh actually they are both used on craiglist, that's why it's showing different prices, I should've told it, thanks again fo your help!