Help me complete my build

bmf_rrh

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Hi guys. I need help with a few remaining parts. So far i have:

24" BENQ monitor
640 gb western digital hd
ATI 4870 1gb video card
CD/DVD drive/burner
keyboard and mouse
Vista 64 bit

The things i still need are:

case
power supply
processor
motherboard
memory

I do not plan on using two video cards, nor do i plan on doing much overclocking. I have $600 to work with. I am not sure if i should buy a really nice case as it seems the case is the only part kept in most upgrades, or put big chunk of money elsewhere. Or perhaps i should save a little more money? Let me know your opinions guys.

Thanks for the help

Robert
 

foolycooly

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I would go something like this:

Case: Coolermaster 690 - $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137

Power Supply: PC P&C 750w - $100 ($80 after MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011

MOBO: ASUS P5Q pro - $125 ($110 after MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131299

CPU: E8500 - $188
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036

Memory: OCZ Reaper 1066 4gb - $66 ($46 after MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289

Total comes to about $550 before tax and shipping...probably about the same with tax and shipping if you count the rebates.

$600 puts you sort of between platforms. If you were willing to spend about $200 more, you might want to consider going i7. However, it really depends on your needs for this computer. If it is primarily gaming, you will be just fine with a duo. If you do any processor intensive tasks, you might want to consider a quad-core approach. The Q9550 adds about $90 to the total, and is a good option if you don't want to go i7.

Hope some of this helps.
 

Mrbumbum

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My suggestion is pretty similar to Foolycooly's

Cooler Master RC-690 & e8400 combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.160731

PC Power & Cooling 750watt $99.99 (cheap because none wants red)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011

If you don’t like the red and are willing to pay more for a black one get Corsair 750tx $119.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&Tpk=750tx

G.Skill PI Black 4gb DDR2 800 $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209

GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P $134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358

I really recommend the above board so you can keep the crossfire option open.


Total with shipping $547.86 (if you get the pc power & cooling)

Make sure you get the black edition of the 640gb harddrive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319
 
If you're going to use this machine only for games, and you don't play FSX or GTA4, the parts listed by FoolyCooly will do great. (OK, I prefer GA-EP45-UD3P to P5Q Pro, but it has the same features anyway.)

If you play FSX or GTA 4 a lot, or compress DVDs, or use Photoshop or Visual Studio, then you'd be better off with a quad. There's a combo here for $329:
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/AddToCart.aspx?Submit=ADD&ItemList=Combo.155232

AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HDZ940XCGIBOX - Retail
GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-DS4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

Or, for about $130 more, a faster solution from Intel: Q9650+GA-EP45-UD3P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358
 

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Never said it dident, I started typing my reply in Microsoft word when there were 0 replies to his question. When I copied and pasted my reply into the thread I added the top line cause I saw you replied but I kept my post the same.
 

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when i first replied to that I actually missread it as written but I know what he meant to say.

The answer to his question, as written, is no. The P5Q does not support crossfire P5Q Pro does tho :)
I know he meant to say Pro since he linked to the pro, but I feel like being technical today :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131295
 

bmf_rrh

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Would this board be good enough since i want to stick with one video card? Instead of adding a second video card, i can see myself going for the new single card.

GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R $119.99 ($104.99 AR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128359

Do i need 750w? I was thinking some where in the 500's. Please keep in mind i probably wont be overclocking when making the ram recommendations. If i were to step up to the next class in cases, what would you guys recommend in that tier?

Great advice so far

Robert



 
Sure, that's a good board for a single-card setup.

As it is, your setup would work fine with a 550VX, for example.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004&Tpk=550vx

You'd save $15. However, it would be a bad move because your next card might want a more powerful PSU. I think $80 for the S75CF is a steal and you migh tas well benefit. You do realize that your electricity bills will be identical with either 500VX or S75CF, right? That is, both will deliver as many Watts as the system needs, and both do it at 83% efficiency or close. It's not like the 750W PSU consumes more than the 550W PSU. The 750/550 is just the maximum that the PSU can deliver, IF ASKED by the rest of the parts.

 

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The boad you linked will do just fine as long as your 100% sure you will never crossfire, however, the p5q pro is only $5 more so I would go for that if your looking to save money, while still leaving crossfire open.

For $100 you might as well keep the 750 watt. A quality 550watt or so is $85 from Corsair and around $70-80 for a 500watt from pc Power and cooling. The 750 watt will also provide more then enough power for any single gpu config outthere currently and what will be there. The x2's may be pushing a 500watt powersupply to its upperlimits.

edit: aevm beat me to the reply :(

and I too forgot the case part lol
 



I missed this part... So, you want something better than the RC-690. I'm assuming it should still have the same looks, i.e. no crazy blue lights. There's a CoolerMaster HAF 932 (quiet, big, wheels) for example. Or the Antec P182.
 

bmf_rrh

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No, i was not aware of that Aevm. Thank you for pointing those two issues out. You guys are great. I will go with the 750w Foolycooly and mrbumbum (nice info on red being cheaper!) linked to. Ok, i have $325-$350 to stretch on a case and a processor. I mostly read forums and play games on the computer. I have 3 kids and am taking lots of pictures now, i can see myself getting into some type of photo editing. Thats about all i will do with the comp. What do you guys think?

 

bmf_rrh

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Hi again all. I have received all my parts, much thanks to all for helping me pick them. Ended up with:

Processor: E8400
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R
Hard drive: WD 640 black
Graphic card: Nvidia 260
Power supply: PC Power and Cooling 750w
Case: Coolermaster 840
OS: Vista 64
Dvd/Cd: LG
Memory: G.Skill 4gb

I am waiting for my graphic card. I installed the motherboard and screwed down power supply. The help i am seeking is where do all the wires plug into. Can you guys direct me to some info or help me with what all i need to connect. I have searched the net and have come up dry. For example, my case has 4 fans, but there are only 3 fan connections on the motherboard.

Thanks

Robert
 

foolycooly

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your motherboard manual is going to be your best bet there. Once you run out of mobo fan sockets, you're going to have to hook them straight to the power supply itself using a molex connection I believe.