Help me decide between 2 proposed gaming rigs

[xv3rze]

Hello everyone,

So I am staying in the United Arab Emirates Temporarily (only 2 years from now) for work, and i thought why not pursue a 2-year MSC course (following my bachelors) in Civil Engineering while i am here.

and since I am a gamer (much less gaming at the moment because of work), i thought i shall build myslef a rig.

So the basic limitations are the local market availaibility and pricing, and my usage capacity of the system. The proposed two rigs are basically the best value for money that i could find (i searched and compared 4 local shops, 1 online local market, 2 international online markets {newegg and amazon}).

I use AutoCAD, Revit, Ansys, Staad, ETABS, CSI programs and mostly similar civil engineering software. I only play a few games, and i would assume they are not very spec demanding, for example, Starcraft, League of Legends, Smite, C&C 3, Prototype, NFS HP and sometimes GTA V.


Here are the 2 proposed Rigs:

Intel Rig (8000 AED or 2175$)

Intel Core i7 8th Generation 8700K
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti DirectX 12 GAMING
ASUS ROG STRIX Z390-H Gaming Motherboard
G skill Trident Z 16GB (2x8GB) RGB 3000C16
Crucial MX500 500GB SSD M.2
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 6GB/s SATA
EVGA POWER SUPPLY 650W
Raidmax Cobra RGB cooler 240mm
Dark Flash T20 Case
Logitech Wireless Gaming Keyboard G613
Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G602
Logitech Wireless Gaming Headset G433
Microsoft Windows 10 Professional 64-bit

AMD Rig (8250 AED or 2240$)

AMD Ryzen 7 2700X
MSI x470 Gaming Plus Motherboard
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP Edition 11GB GDDR5X Gaming Graphics Card
G skill Trident Z 16GB (2x8GB) RGB 3000C16
Crucial MX500 500GB SSD M.2
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 6GB/s SATA
EVGA POWER SUPPLY 650W
Dark Flash T20 Case
Logitech Wireless Gaming Keyboard G613
Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G602
Logitech Wireless Gaming Headset G433
Microsoft Windows 10 Professional 64-bit

As you can see, the main difference is that i used the stock cooler of the Ryzen in the second rig to invest the money difference of that cooler, the CPU and the motherboard (plus some more cash) into a better GPU i.e. the 1080 TI. Otherwise, all the other components are identical.

What are your opinions on the said setups? which one shall I go for? and why? Also, i would appreciate if someone pointed out an incompatible part or a bad choice in the rig, or would like to replace a part by an other.

Note: Never mind the wireless peripherals, I usually play on the couch, and use a 4k 50" TV for a monitor.

 

[richiestang_78]

I would get the Ryzen setup with the 1080ti, its going to be significantly more powerful. What PSU are you picking exactly? Not all EVGAs or any brands models are good

 

[terry4536]

The Ryzen is the better value. The GTX 1080Ti is the more powerful card.

 

[terry4536]

I might suggest using that build and substituting an I5-9600K or I7-9700K with a an Z370 or Z390 motherboard.

 

[xv3rze]

@richiestang_78 I'm not really sure which one exactly is it, I forgot to write down the exact model from the shop. Anything I should avoid?

Also, is it worth the wait until the 9900k/9700k is available, to plug that in and get more future-proof rig? Or is the current suggestion just fine?

 

[terry4536]

This would be my suggestion for a power supply (you will need to do a search locally for a retailer).

EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G3, 220-G3-0650-Y1, 80+ GOLD, 650W Fully Modular, EVGA ECO Mode with New HDB Fan, Includes FREE Power On Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ZX5307164

or

Seasonic FOCUS series SSR-650FM 650W 80 + Gold Power Supply, Semi-Modular, ATX12V/EPS12V, Compact 140 mm Size, 7 yr warranty

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151202&cm_re=seasonic_650w-_-17-151-202-_-Product

 

[terry4536]

The Intel 9000 series were released here in the US about a week ago.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007671%20601321947%20601321948%20601321946

 

[richiestang_78]

The 9 series is nice but the performance to price ratio is terrible for them. A Ryzen 2700X will perform about 10-20 percent less in most applications, gaming wise it wont be really any difference but the 9700K will cost about 50% more.

 

[terry4536]

The 9 series is nice but the performance to price ratio is terrible for them. A Ryzen 2700X will perform about 10-20 percent less in most applications, gaming wise it wont be really any difference but the 9700K will cost about 50% more.

I would agree for the 9900K. At $600, it isn't cheap. The I5-9600K is at $280. The I7-9700K is at 420. I would take a look at https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i5-9600k-processor-review,1.html or https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400/intel-9th-gen-core-i9-9900k-i7-9700k-i5-9600k-review .

 

[xv3rze]

Thanks guys for your responses, perhaps this is my last question, I read somewhere in the interwebs that the ryzen has some stability issues, not eveyone but a good amount of people addressed these issues. Also, I heard that a new gen of ryzen is soon to be released, and from what I understood it would be a huge improvement over the current gen. Is that true? Is it worth the wait? Because as you can see, for the amount of cash I'm throwing on this rig, I would expect to not upgrade for a good 5~7 years, at the same time I would like a smooth system that doesn't require much troubleshooting, and to be honest, Intel has given me just that with my 3rd Gen core i7 from 2012/2013. The fear of switching to AMD is there, but still I'm considering it, and it seems to be the winner here apparently.

 

[terry4536]

I believe the third generation of Ryzen is due out next spring. If it is like the the second generation, i would expect stability improvements. Whether it will improve the performance or not, we will have to wait to find out.

Yes, Ryzen has had quite a few problems. The second generation was an improvement, but even it has had problems requiring many BIOS updates (some on a weekly basis).

For the most part, rumors about new processor releases are overly hyped. The same applies to graphics cards as well.