Question Help me optimize the system: i5-13600K, 4RTX 4070

[Svalkash]

Hi. I could use an advice on making the system cheaper.
My first idea was:
- Intel Core i5-13600kf
- Z960 motherboard like MSI Tomahawk
- MSI RTX 4070 Ventus 3X
- Kingston Fury 2x16GB DDR5 5600
- 750W MSI Power supply
- Lian Li 216X case

The system purpose is gaming, going to upgrade to 1440p monitor at the same time. Not sure about the overclocking, was never serious about it.
So...
- Is it worth it even buying Z chipset motherboard for this CPU, or should I save and just go for a good B760 one?
- Will I lose much by going for DDR4-based motherboard and memory at the same time?
- Should I swap the "new and cool" processor for something lighter, like 12600 or 13400?

 

[Lutfij]

You might want to pass on a PCPartPicker list to help us save some more off your build. At this point, it's anyone's guess what you have access to, where you're located and what we can save with just your specs list in what it's listed as in your thread's body.

One other thing to note, you're spending a sizeable chunk of your money on a build, best not skimp into questionable territory(go with lackluster quality components).

If you want to skip the Z series chipset, there's no point holding onto a K suffix processor.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

DDR4 will give you about the same performance.

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/ddr5-vs-ddr4-is-it-time-to-upgrade-your-ram

There are Z690 boards with USB Bios flashback. Asrock Extreme Z690 is a good example.

You can also look for some cheaper case alternatives.

13400 and B760 board choice is upto to you. You can stick with the 13600kf for the clock speeds and still go with the B760 board if its cheaper. But looking at US proces, the Z690 and B760 boards costs about the same.
Atleast the ones with good VRMs, like 12 phase minimum.

 

[Eximo]

I've been touting the 12700KF for a while. About the best deal that you can find. I snagged one for $200 back on Cyber Monday.

8P cores at up to 5GHz, vs the 6P cores found in all the i5s.

PCPartPicker Part List

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory ($67.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $416.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-12-20 10:30 EST-0500

And this $99 AsRock motherboard is hard to pass up. I keep thinking I should buy one just to have as a spare.

DDR4000 is pretty cheap and gets you just about the same gaming performance as cheap DDR5.

You don't have to overclock, but it is fairly easy to get 5Ghz all core on the P Cores.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

9 phase 50A caps. That's the only reason I would not go for that Phantom Gaming board. Definite chance of throttling if the power draw goes above 150w.

 

[Eximo]

9 phase 50A caps. That's the only reason I would not go for that Phantom Gaming board. Definite chance of throttling if the power draw goes above 150w.

Always the Riptide for $25 more.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kY...ptide-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-pg-riptide

Could always set a power limit on an unlocked chip.

I think stock cinebench 12700KF pulled 170W. Normal loads aren't likely to get that high.

 

[helper800]

What is your specific budget and country of purchase?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($155.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 UD AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($539.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1280.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-12-20 14:44 EST-0500

 

[Why_Me]

In regards to gaming: DDR4 3200 > DDR5 5600

The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($155.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ B&H)
Memory: *Crucial Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *XFX Speedster MERC 319 Black Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($519.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($8.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1192.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-12-20 19:21 EST-0500

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760-P-WIFI-DDR4

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-20m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.thermalright.com/product/phantom-spirit-120-se/

https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr4/cp2k16g4dfra32a

https://www.crucial.com/products/ssd/crucial-p5-plus-ssd

https://www.xfxforce.com/shop/xfx-speedster-merc319-radeon-tm-rx-7800-xt-black-edition

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MAG-A750GL-PCIE5

https://www.arctic.de/us/P12-PWM-PST/ACFAN00120A

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4

 

[logainofhades]

I would never want a KF model, unless you have old known working graphics card lying around. Having an IGP for GPU troubleshooting, or allowing you to still use your system, if your GPU dies, is worth the little bit extra to get a regular K model.