Build Advice help needed building pc first time

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I want to build a new pc since my current desktop is slow and the current parts can't really be replaced.
I want to build a pc that can run CAD programs and for gaming (such as CSGO) with a budget for around 400 Euro's.

Chosen parts:
CPU Ryzen 3 3100 (including vents)
GPU Radeon RX 570 4GB
Motherboard asrock-a320m-pro4 (4 memory slots)
Memory corsair-value-select-8gb-ddr4 (thinking about getting x2 of these)

I am not sure which PSU and Casing I need to choose. A PSU needs to be able to support your electricity your parts use but I also heard there are pins (4 pins, 6+2 pins, 8 pins etc.) which I dont understand how it works exactly. It has something to do with your motherboard.

Can I put these parts together and install certain software (BIOS and windows and more?) programs?

I researched if these parts are compatible or not but I still like to get help with these. Are these parts good to run the programs I want and what else do I need to do?
I have never built a pc before could I get help?
 
Yes everything will work together and on the PSU any Bronze rated PSU with 500w will more than do the job. The PSU will have all the power cables for your motherboard and there are many you tube video's that show how to build your PC.

You will need Windows 10 to install on the PC and then you can install all your other programmes.

Below is just an example as I think going the Ryzen 2600 would be better with six cores rather than 4 on the 3100 for you CAD etc..and you can always upgrade later...

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/4QM4HB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor (€125.29 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 200T 54.25 CFM CPU Cooler (€17.03 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Value 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL19 Memory (€53.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 570 8 GB PULSE Video Card (€143.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12III 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€50.48 @ Alternate)
Total: €460.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-05 16:50 CEST+0200
 

logainofhades

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Yes everything will work together and on the PSU any Bronze rated PSU with 500w will more than do the job. The PSU will have all the power cables for your motherboard and there are many you tube video's that show how to build your PC.

You will need Windows 10 to install on the PC and then you can install all your other programmes.

Below is just an example as I think going the Ryzen 2600 would be better with six cores rather than 4 on the 3100 for you CAD etc..and you can always upgrade later...

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/4QM4HB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor (€125.29 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 200T 54.25 CFM CPU Cooler (€17.03 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Value 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 CL19 Memory (€53.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 570 8 GB PULSE Video Card (€143.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12III 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€50.48 @ Alternate)
Total: €460.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-05 16:50 CEST+0200
That is a dangerously bad suggestion. Not just any bronze rated 500w PSU will do the job. Efficiency rating doesn't mean quality. Also, those Seasonic S12III are not very good model, sadly. Ram is too slow for Ryzen.
 
The budget is Euro 400 for the lot and I am already over by quiet a lot! So compromises are going to have to be made and more importantly I did make clear this was just an example....Also Seasonic for me at least are more than fine as a PSU manufacturer...but that's just me....Not sure what world Seasonic would be called dangerous especially at a sub Euro 400 budget for the whole system..

That is a dangerously bad suggestion. Not just any bronze rated 500w PSU will do the job. Efficiency rating doesn't mean quality. Also, those Seasonic S12III are not very good model, sadly. Ram is too slow for Ryzen.
 
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logainofhades

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The general suggestion of any bronze rated 500w PSU is considered dangerous. The S12III are sadly, not quality models. Even the best company will produce a dud, every once in a while. You should never compromise on PSU quality. Frankly, the OP should wait, till they can spend a bit more, and buy quality components, with regards to PSU, and motherboard. The used market is a valid option, on everything, but the PSU, and storage, as well. Used RX 570, and 580 can typically be found, at great prices, for instance.
 
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The general suggestion of any bronze rated 500w PSU is considered dangerous. The S12III are sadly, not quality models. Even the best company will produce a dud, every once in a while. You should never compromise on PSU quality. Frankly, the OP should wait, till they can spend a bit more, and buy quality components, with regards to PSU, and motherboard. The used market is a valid option, on everything, but the PSU, and storage, as well. Used RX 570, and 580 can typically be found, at great prices, for instance.
Do you think that the CPU (maybe an AMD Ryzen 5 2600X) and GPU are strong enough to run the programs that I mentioned? If they are is it not possible to get the other parts and make it work?
 

logainofhades

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A Ryzen 5 1600 AF (12nm), 2600, 2600x, and even the R3 3100 should be enough, for what you are looking to do, with the level of graphics card you are intending to buy. It's a shame you cannot find a good price, on the much better 3300x, anywhere. The 400 euro budget is just a bit low, if going all in, on new parts. Doing some use parts, should make it doable though. A320 cannot overclock, and generally have poor power delivery, so you might not quite reach the full potential of a 2600x. I would suggest a lower end B450, instead, like an Asrock B450m Pro4.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€105.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€69.00 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€55.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card (€143.99 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€72.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €447.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-05 21:33 CEST+0200


What are the specs, of your current system?
 
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A Ryzen 5 1600 AF (12nm), 2600, 2600x, and even the R3 3100 should be enough, for what you are looking to do, with the level of graphics card you are intending to buy. It's a shame you cannot find a good price, on the much better 3300x, anywhere. The 400 euro budget is just a bit low, if going all in, on new parts. Doing some use parts, should make it doable though. A320 cannot overclock, and generally have poor power delivery, so you might not quite reach the full potential of a 2600x. I would suggest a lower end B450, instead, like an Asrock B450m Pro4.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€105.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€69.00 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€55.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card (€143.99 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€72.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €447.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-05 21:33 CEST+0200


What are the specs, of your current system?
My current PC is this:
https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c05157573
So its not capable of running the programs I want to run.

Can I run the programs I mentioned with these parts? :
-CPU Ryzen 5 2600x (including vents)
-GPU Radeon RX 570 4GB
-Motherboard MSI X470 Gaming Plus MAX
-Memory corsair-value-select-8gb-ddr4 (thinking about getting x2 of these)

I also need help with choosing the right PSU and casing. I heard something around 550W will do and looking at the motherboard the CPU needs 2x 6+2 pins and there are 24 pins for the rest.
 

logainofhades

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Buy an actual 2x8gb kit, of at least DDR4 3000 ram, preferably DDR4 3200. That setup will do well for what you want to do. Corsair CX550m would be my pick for a decent enough PSU.

An example build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor (€125.29 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€69.00 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€55.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card (€143.99 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€72.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €467.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-05 22:14 CEST+0200
 
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Buy an actual 2x8gb kit, of at least DDR4 3000 ram, preferably DDR4 3200. That setup will do well for what you want to do. Corsair CX550m would be my pick for a decent enough PSU.

An example build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor (€125.29 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€69.00 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€55.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card (€143.99 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€72.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €467.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-05 22:14 CEST+0200
I think I got the DDR4 with 3000mH.
And looking at my motherboard it looks like it needs 12(2x 6+2) pins for cpu and 24 for the rest. How does it work?
 

logainofhades

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Motherboard will use a 24 pin, and an 8 pin (4+4) cpu connection, and an additional 4 pin, from a second 4+4 connection, for the CPU. You will not need to use that extra 4 pin, with a 2600. That is for pushing high overclocks, with higher core count chips.
 
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Hello,

I am building a pc for the first time.
I want to run CAD and Gaming programs with optimal performance with these parts.
I have chosen these parts:

CPU AMD Ryzen 3 3100
GPU AS Rock Radeon RX 550 2GB
DDR4 Corsair 8GB with 3000mh
Motherboard AS Rock A320M PRO4 Motherboard

I have to yet choose a compatible PSU, Casing and SSD/HDD.
And figure out how to built a PC and then making the PC ready for use (downloading Windows and other things I need to learn)

What do you guys think about this? And what else do I need to watch out for?
 

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