Help needed for a newbie, please....

mataus

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Hi,

I have recently built a new system, but it appears to be running slower than my old one. The system I have built is for gaming use only and therefore I have limited the ammount of software to a minimum. I have Win XP Pro, AOL 8.0, Norton Antivirus/Firewall, Fightadds 2.1, Office XP and Flightsim 2004 installed. The only software which is always running is the antivirus and Fightadds. When I'm using Flightsim I am usually connected to the interent, although there is no difference in performance whether I am or not. The main game I use is Flightsim, and with my old system, with everything on max in flightsim it would give around 8-10 FPS at gound level with all scenery in sight. With the new system it is only a couple of frames above that. I was hoping that having a faster CPU, motherboard and most importantly a faster graphics card I would see a massive increase. Am I doing something wrong? Do I need more memory?
Any help would be grateful. I don't know much about BIOS settings or the various settings in Windows for graphics cards.

My new spec is as follows;

ASUS P4G8X Deluxe (latest BIOS)
P4 2.66 533
Sappphire 9800Pro (latest drivers)
512mb PC3200
Seagate 120Gb S-ATA
LG CD-RW 16x10x40
SB 4.1 OEM
Alcatel External ADSL modem

My old spec was;

ASUS A7A266-E (latest BIOS)
AMD 2000XP
PNY Ti4600 (latest Drivers accepted by Riva tuner)
512Mb PC1200
IBM 40GB IDE
LG CD-RW 16x10x40
SB 4.1 OEM
Alcatel External ADSL modem

Once again, I would be grateful for any suggestions..
 

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have u tried a 3dmark 2001se/2003 benchmarking or sisoft sandra on your new system yet ???

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Your new system should definately be faster than your old one. Like some of the other guys said, downloading 3dmark would be a good place to start. You can download it at <A HREF="http://www.futuremark.com" target="_new">http://www.futuremark.com</A>. It can benchmark your systems and we can compare the scores from the tests that are given. Also, like Ion said, did you download the New motherboard chipset drivers for your Asus motherboard? That could make all the difference in the world if your only using the Windows standard drivers.

Last but not least, have you tried other games on the system to see if the problem is limited to Flight Sim or not. If it is, (or even if it isn't), Downloading the latest update to your Flight Sim game will be beneficial theory test out.

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Thats about what it should be.

I think that you are just playing the game at A) Too high a' settings (2048x1536?) or B) with your new card, anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering are enabled, where they weren't on your old card. I think u just need to find the right balance for that particular game. That is, res, details, AA/aniso.

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Run 3dmark 2001 just to be sure as 5,400 seems a little low for a 9800pro with the 3.7's

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7000747" target="_new"> 3D-2001 </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1284380" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
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Clicky to Mataus's 3D Mark score:

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1348157" target="_new">http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1348157</A>


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mataus

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The res i use is 1280x1024, the same as on the last card. As far as I can see, AA/aniso was on with both cards. The settings for flight sim are more or less the same. I checked my old system again and i can get up to 40fps, but i can't get anywhere near that on this new set up.
I'm really disheartend, I was so looking forward to having such a good graphics card. Something just isn't right somewhere. Could there be somthing in the BIOS that I should set or change?

Thanks, Mataus
 

speeduk

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AGP aperture to 128mb
Fast writes DISABLED
AGP set to 8x or enabled

This is what I always use and it gets me good performance. Having fast writes enabled doesn't seem to do anything...
Also note AGP aperture should be 256mb or higher if you have more than 512mb ram.

If they dont work then
AGP aperture 64mb
Fast writed enabled

Thats about it. I would check 3dmark2001 score because it is more sensitive to memory and cpu than 03 is. Maybe you have some other bottleneck...

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7000747" target="_new"> 3D-2001 </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1284380" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
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speeduk

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Also note that some software is heavily optimized for different hardware. For e.g GP4 is optimized for AMD cpus so a 3000 barton will run better than a 3.2ghz P4!!! That was one of the reasons I got a barton because running at 2.4ghz it performs about the same as a 3.6ghz P4 would in this game, a game I play a lot. And I get a constant 40fps with 4x anti and 8x anis on with max details and it looks better than on the T.V!

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7000747" target="_new"> 3D-2001 </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1284380" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)