HELP needed please.

[GumanZ]

Hello everyone-

Is it possible for me to put """Geil Golden Dragon Dual Channel 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3500""" -- Specifications -

Manufacturer: Geil
Speed: DDR433(PC3500)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5 6-3-3 1T
Support Voltage: 2.55V-2.95V
Bandwidth: 3.5GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
Special Features: Wafer Level Chip Scale Package
Warranty: Lifetime

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on *******ASUS "P4P800-E Deluxe" i865PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU****** -

- Specifications -

Supported CPU: Intel Pentium 4/Celeron Processor (Prescott Ready)
Chipset: Intel 865PE + ICH5R
FSB: 800/533/400MHz
RAM: 4x DIMM for Dual Channel DDR400 Max 4GB
IDE: 2x UDMA 100 by ICH5R, 1x UDMA 133 by Promise 20378
Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI, 1x ASUS Wi-Fi
Ports: 2xPS/2,2xCOM(Rear 1),1xLPT,1xLAN,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),2xIEEE1394(Rear 1),1xGAME,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: ALC850 8-CH
Onboard LAN: Marvell 88E8001 GbE
Onboard 1394: VT6307
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x SATA RAID 0/1 by ICH5R, 2x SATA RAID 0/1/0+1 by Promise 20378
Form Factor: ATX ---

???

And if yes what difference will it have from putting a ""Geil Golden Dragon Dual Channel 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200""---

- Specifications -

Manufacturer: Geil
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2 6-3-3 1T
Support Voltage: 2.55V-2.95V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
Special Features: Wafer Level Chip Scale Package


on the motherboard?

Will it perform better or worse?

Thanks in advance!!

 

[Black_Cat]

You may see a slight improvement using the CAS 2 PC3200 RAM at stock speeds in some applications. If you plan to overclock the PC3500 would be the better choice.


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[GumanZ]

yes i do plan to over clock, in fact i just ordered these pieces..

SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9800 PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -BULK -

GEIL GOLDEN DRAGON 1GB PC3200 400MHz DUAL CHANNEL RETAIL

CASE|RAIDMAX ATX SCOBRA822 BL 420WR


CASE FAN ANTEC 80x80x25 Blue LED RT

MB ASUS P4P800-E DELUXE 865PE RET

CPU FAN|AEROFLOW2 VP4-C7245 VTEC RT

HD 80GB|WD 7200RPM 8MB WD800JB%

CDRW LTON|52X32X52 SOHR-5238S WH%

CPU P4/3.0EGHz 800M 478P/1MB HT RT


I asked about the Ram because the company i ordered from sent me an email saying they upgraded the ram to pc3500 for free so i thought i should come here and ask if it would still give me a good performance.(friend of mine said with that MB pc3500 wouldnt perform as well as pc3200.)

 

[GumanZ]

can anyone give me more feed back on this please? should i go with the PC3500 or PC3200?

 

[El_Jefe_77]

hahha!
yes its true! the 3500 doesnt have the same timings as 3200 from the same company!

Know why? Well, first off, its the same ram chips. like exactly. In fact, the ram chips are probably made by Samsung (statistically, a good guess to assume!), and even further, those chips are probably on a few different namebrands of ram, however, this configuration, style, warranty, and latency timings are what you want apparently in the 3200 version, as well, I am hoping!... the price is what you want to pay.

the 3200 ram you have probably could be overclocked with also a slight boost in voltage if needed to the same 3500 speed ram. The only thing you would need to do, POSSIBLY, is to "relax" the timings on the ram until they work correctly. However, if it is ram that has great timings, like can easily go 2 2 2 if pushed in the bios settings, then it probably could go to like 2.5 or at worst, 3 x x x timings at higher speeds.

Really, bottom line is, youre paying for ram that will be automatically recognized at pc3500 by your mobo, plus the fact that it is warranteed to live happily at the said voltage at 3500, tested and true without fizzling. If you wanted to go at 200mhz speed, aka ddr400, you could force its timings to go at the same exact speed as the 3200's rated latency timings, (or even lower as most ram made this year seems to be able to go)

 

[GumanZ]

well the funny thing is PC3500 is actually cheaper than PC3200.

I am having hardtime understanding your first pharagrah😛 ( what you are saying is i get the same performance out of both but pc3500 would cost more?)

I want to overclock my PC, i have no idea how it is done..I will hopefully have a friend of mine help me out.- trying to find helpful links here also but cant seem to find something like *overclocking for dummies, step by step!*

Would like to hear more opinions from different people, help me out please!

Thanks in advance!

 

[El_Jefe_77]

if you want to oc your machine, go to OC forums. Opinions? there arent any "opinions". jeez how freakin annoying.

if the pc3500 is cheaper, then it you must check if the chips are made from the same company or not. I doubt they are made from another company. basically, all ram chips are virtually the same freakin thing.

if you really want to find out what ram to get, just get corsair xms ram and push it up one notch in mhz to the same as 3500.

there is no such thing as pc3500 ram. its just 3200 pushed to 3500 speed, really its only a lil more in the mhz, not a big accomplishment. It just allows you to change your clock speed.

my suggestion is to get a a64 chip 939 socket and 512 megs ram. and like, dont need to ever overclock it.

 

[GumanZ]

Thanks alot,now i understand better. sorry if i sounded annoying. Like i said, i am new to this stuff.

Thanks again, really appritiated!

 

[Coyote]

Welcome to the forums GumanZ!

Here's a link to site/thread where everybody added their OC links. In other words, look here, scroll and check out the links and you'll find lots of OCing advice.

<A HREF="http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?s=e31852fdfdcbbc5aa32913ad1abb3db9&threadid=173635" target="_new">http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?s=e31852fdfdcbbc5aa32913ad1abb3db9&threadid=173635</A>

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[Crashman]

My Crucial Ballistix uses completely different RAM (Micron brand) and runs 2-2-2-5 at PC3500 speed. And it only cost $74 a module (but I didn't pay for mine).

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