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Heya,

I need some help to settle a dispute.
How mnay Queens of England have there been ?
And how many have been ruling Queens ? i.e. Did Lady Jane Grey qualify ?

I look forward to ant help offered

ozzz
 
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ozzz wrote:
> Heya,
>
> I need some help to settle a dispute.
> How mnay Queens of England have there been ?
> And how many have been ruling Queens ? i.e. Did Lady Jane Grey qualify ?
>
> I look forward to ant help offered

Matilda (1141) 7 months uncrowned
Jane Grey (1553) 9 days uncrowned
Mary I (1553-1558)
Elizabeth I (1558-1603)
Mary II (1689-1694) jointly with William III
Anne (1702-1714)
Victoria (1837-1903)
Elizabeth II (1952- )
--
It is only those who have neither
fired a shot nor heard the shrieks
and groans of the wounded who cry
aloud for blood, more vengeance, more
desolation. War is hell.
--William Tecumseh Sherman

In war, there are no unwounded soldiers.
--Jose Narosky

The urge to save humanity is almost
always a false front for the urge to
rule.
--H.L. Mencken
 
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In article <10ua94tft34p065@corp.supernews.com>, Jeffrey Turner <jturner@localnet.com> wrote:
: ozzz wrote:

:> How many Queens of England have there been ?

: Matilda (1141) 7 months uncrowned
: Jane Grey (1553) 9 days uncrowned
: Mary I (1553-1558)
: Elizabeth I (1558-1603)
: Mary II (1689-1694) jointly with William III
: Anne (1702-1714)
: Victoria (1837-1903)
: Elizabeth II (1952- )

You left out Quentin Crisp.

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> > I need some help to settle a dispute.
> > How mnay Queens of England have there been ?

The question is ill-defined: it depends on what you mean. Therefore
the dispute is likely to go unsettled, because different disputants
are likely to be assuming different definitions.

> > And how many have been ruling Queens ? i.e. Did Lady Jane Grey qualify ?

Well, you need to tell us.

> > I look forward to ant help offered

> Matilda (1141) 7 months uncrowned

Which summarizes some rather complicated history, civil war and all that.
Those on the opposing side might say that she didn't count.

> Jane Grey (1553) 9 days uncrowned

See above.

> Mary I (1553-1558)
> Elizabeth I (1558-1603)
> Mary II (1689-1694) jointly with William III
> Anne (1702-1714)
> Victoria (1837-1903)
> Elizabeth II (1952- )

Elizabeth's title isn't Queen of England, it's Queen of the United
Kingdom (and a lot more words, but that's the short form). Does that
count? You tell us. Similar issues arise with Victoria, although
I don't know what title she used.

And then, there are three kinds of queens in royalty. The above
list is only queens regnant, except maybe Mary II. The wife of a
king is a queen consort, and if widowed, becomes a queen dowager;
if the latter is the mother of a later monarch, "queen mother" is
also used. There have been *lots* more "Queens of England" in
these senses. (Elizabeth II is not the second, but the fifth Queen
Elizabeth of England or the UK, if all types are counted; it's just
that only the queens regnant get numbered.) Do they all count?
Do they only count up to when the UK was formed, or when the title
changed (if that's different)? You need to tell us.
--
Mark Brader | "...having compressed some 300 million years into
Toronto | two paragraphs, I have left out some details."
msb@vex.net | -- Roger Gary

My text in this article is in the public domain.
 
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Mark Brader wrote:


> Elizabeth's title isn't Queen of England, it's Queen of the United
> Kingdom (and a lot more words, but that's the short form). Does that
> count? You tell us. Similar issues arise with Victoria, although
> I don't know what title she used.

Victoria was also Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Ireland, she was also Empress of India from May 1, 1876 on. BTW,
Anne's title was Queen of Great Britain and Ireland, and etc., so
Mary II was the last "Queen of England."

> And then, there are three kinds of queens in royalty. The above
> list is only queens regnant, except maybe Mary II.

She was joint sovereign with "King Billy."

--Jeff

--
It is only those who have neither
fired a shot nor heard the shrieks
and groans of the wounded who cry
aloud for blood, more vengeance, more
desolation. War is hell.
--William Tecumseh Sherman

In war, there are no unwounded soldiers.
--Jose Narosky

The urge to save humanity is almost
always a false front for the urge to
rule.
--H.L. Mencken
 
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Mark Brader:
> > Elizabeth [II]'s title isn't Queen of England, it's Queen of the
> > United Kingdom (and a lot more words...)

Jeffrey Turner:
> Victoria was also Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
> Ireland,

It's not "also" when you go past the "and", actually.

> ... Anne's title was Queen of Great Britain and Ireland, and etc.,

Not before 1707.

> so Mary II was the last "Queen of England."

So, not.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto, msb@vex.net
"Have you ever heard [my honesty] questioned?"
"I never even heard it mentioned." -- Every Day's a Holiday
 
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I see what you mean. Now I have to ponder another question, whether to tear
all my hair out or go with the 8 :)

Thanks for the help :)

ozzz