Help on a setup

[tdmaster]

So im building a computer for my younger cousin. He wants the computer for gaming and he is going to be playing fortnite mostly. So im trying to get the cheapest bang for my buck full setup for 1080p high gaming. If there are corners you think i can cut please let me know.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/tdmaster/saved/xvJ7WZ

 

[R_1]

I went with a 7th generation chip, the differences in performance are small and not worth the extra cash, IMHO. I needed to find some money for a better PSU, the one you chose is, eh. this one has a longer warranty and is higher quality.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.68 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($49.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Team - Elite Plus 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($37.09 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($156.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($38.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus - VS228T-P 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($98.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Thermaltake - Commander Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger Headset ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $627.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-14 22:36 EDT-0400

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[derekullo]

If the computer is only for Fortniite and maybe a few other games a fast ssd would work just as well.

Replacing a $44 hard drive with all that space you won't use with a 240 gigabyte $54 SSD is a win in my book.

I also upgraded the power supply from a bronze EVGA to a gold EVGA for about $24, stable power delivery is key to keeping the computer ... ahhh ... stable.

Additionally I changed the CPU and motherboard to a better performing and cheaper but still highly related model.

The Pentium Gold is a nice trick but its still just a dual core with hyperthreading.

The new Ryzen processors are more efficient price and performance wise.

Without Turbo boost the Pentium Gold loses much of the slight advantage Intel has over AMD.

Poetically the Ryzen processor is able to turbo to 3.7 gigahertz, the same unturbo'd speed of the Pentium Gold.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($97.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - A320M-DGS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($50.47 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($53.83 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($171.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.87 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus - VS228T-P 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($99.00 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Thermaltake - Commander Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.67 @ SuperBiiz)
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud Stinger Headset ($49.99 @ Walmart)
Total: $736.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-14 22:49 EDT-0400

As an alternative for an even cheaper build you could use the integrated graphics of the Ryzen 5 2400g and not even buy an discrete graphics card.


According to

https://www.techspot.com/review/1574-amd-ryzen-5-2400g-and-ryzen-3-2200g/page6.html

The regular clocked AMD Ryzen 5 2400g G is able to get an average of 45 fps @ 1080p and medium settings using the integrated graphics of the chip

At 720p and medium settings the average fps shoots up to 75 fps.

It should be easy to get an average 60 fps by making a compromise between the 2 settings.


According to

https://www.techspot.com/article/1557-fortnite-benchmarks/

The average fps of a Geforce 1050Ti is about 68 fps at 1080p and high settings.


And so the question becomes is a Geforce 1050Ti valued at $190 worth the extra eye candy that high settings and 1080p would provide?



Personally I'd go with a discrete graphics card, either a Geforce 1050Ti or a Geforce 1060.

For reference the Geforce 1060 gets an average of 112 fps at 1080p and high settings.

 

[smorizio]

If this is there first time gaming pc. go with a good amd mb and wait for the newer ryzen cpu and nvidia gpu to drop. spending a litte more now will help you latter whe nthe pc slows down or he want to play games that are harder on system parts. wit ha ryzen mb the cpu slot going to be around for a bit. if you get one of the newer 400x chipset it should wiht a bios update be able to handle the next ryzen cpu that drop. if you can wait for the next nvida gpu it be faster then the 1050 for not more funds. it also cause the older 1xxx cards to drop in price as there to many of them now. on the pc spend little more go with fast 16g of ram. most new mb run best with one set of ram sticks. sometimes with all 4 ram sticks you have to bump of the ram voltage. also of one slot is broken you have two spare slots.

 

[tdmaster]

So im going to go with the build i put together. Not cause i want to be right or whatever just because i think its the best for this situation. R_1 i was going to use your build but i loaded up the pcpartpicker list and it came out to be about the same price as my build. The psu is not a problem for me seeing as i have the same one in my pc and i have had absolutely no problems with it for the years that ive had it. Also i chose the stinger headphones because i have cloud 2s and i ADORE them. Derekullo your build was just too expensive for this budget but i do understand where your coming from with the ssd, i would love to fit one in if i could but i dont want to stray too far from my budget. To both you and smorizio im going with intel for their generally better single core performance and since he is strictly playing games and not doing any sort of content creation, if he planned to then i would have used a ryzen cpu hands down because i love my 1700. Sincerely thank you guys for trying to help, i didnt end up choosing a solution just because one didnt fulfill all of my needs for this build. No matter what build i went with i do believe that we are giving a damn good pc to a new member of the PCMR. Have a good one guys.

 

[derekullo]

Do note that the above build without the discrete video card is only $565
736-171= $565
You could always add the Geforce 1050 later once you have more money.

I wouldn't do the above with an Intel CPU due to the lackluster integrated GPU performance.

Intel does have a boost in games but only on Intel processors with Turbo boost enabled. (Pentium Gold is not among them)

For instance the Ryzen 3 2200G mentioned earlier can turbo up to 3.7 gigahertz which is the same speed of the Intel Pentium Gold's top speed making the difference in gaming performance negligible.

The difference in gaming comes when you compare the more/most expensive CPUs like the i7-8700k which turbos up to 4.7 gigahertz to the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X with a maximum turbo of 4.3 gigahertz a difference of 400 megahertz.

or for even more dramatic difference;


AMD Ryzen 7 1700X at 3.8 gigahertz max turbo

VERSUS

Intel i7-7700k at 4.5 Gigahertz max turbo

a difference of 500 megahertz

 

[derekullo]

As for the solid state (Kingston - A400 240GB) the difference in price is only >>> $17 <<< .

$54 versus $37

Assuming you don't need all of the space in a 1 terabyte drive a 240 gigabyte SSD will be very satisfying.

 

[derekullo]

As for waiting on the next generation to come out, Nvidia tends to release the expensive cards first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_10_series

Geforce 1080 = May 27, 2016
Geforce 1070 = June 10, 2016
Geforce 1060 = August 18, 2016 (3 gigabyte edition)
Geforce 1050 = October 25, 2016 (2 gigabyte edition)