Help on Building A Gaming PC

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Hi, i just wanna know if this system i'm planning to build is a good unit for a high-end gaming pc and will be able to last for few years and also adapt then new games in the nex few years. Any comments or suggestions is really appreaciated, Thnx in advance.

MOTHERBOARD:
XFX nForce 750a SLI Motherboard (Nvidia 750a SLI, PCIe2.0,eSATA,RAID 1,0,0+1, 5) = $109.97

MICROPORCESSOR:
AMD Phenom X4 9650 2.30GHz = $139.99

RAM:

2x CORSAIR Dual Channel TwinX 2048MB DDR2 800MHz = $29.99 (package)

VIDEO CARD:
2x BFG GeForce 9800 GTX 512MB, GDDR3, PCIe2.0, SLI = $129.99 ea
or
2x Galaxy GeForce 9800 GT 512MB, DDR3, PCIe2.0, SLI Ready = $84.99 ea

HARD DISK:
3x SEAGATE Barracuda 7200.11 320GB (16MB,SATA-300,OEM) = $59.99 ea

POWER SUPPLY:
CORSAIR TX750W (750W PSU-ATX, 140mm Fan, SLI-Ready, SATA Ready, 80+) = $109.99

TOTAL = $829.89 (w/ BFG GeForce 9800GTX card)
or
TOTAL = $739.89 (w/ Galaxy GeForce 9800GT card)

I don't know what's missing though, planning to buy network card in the future if the built-in isn't that good and i'm not that particular in sounds since i usually turn off my in-game sounds. I don't have a monitor yet, so please suggest any good monitors if u can.
 

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Well, that doesn't look much like the typical build that gets recommended on this board. The power supply is good, and the memory sounds fine as well. Where can you get a 9800 GT for $85? Two of those in SLI would probably beat a 4870. For the 9800 GTXs, you'd probably be looking at a 4850 X2 as a viable alternative, depending on what specific games at what resolutions you're interested in. Let us know and we can help. If you do go SLI, you'll either need an nvidia chipset or a core i7 build. I'm not sure, but I think the 750a is an older design. You might be better served elsewhere, giving up SLI for crossfire and an ati or intel chipset. The usual choice for this price range for a processor is an intel dual core, which keeps up well at a high clock for single threaded games.

Any decent motherboard has a good on-board network controller (if not two), so a separate card shouldn't be necessary. Are you planning on putting the 3 hard drives in a RAID of some type? That might or might not make sense, depending on how you're planning on implementing it. I'm not sure if that particular model is good or not, but hopefully someone else will have a better idea. You haven't included a case, heatsink fan or optical drive. Do you have any of them? As far as monitors go, I like Acer as a good budget choice, but it's dependent on your budget and level of expectations. If you could fill in some more details, I can narrow it down some more.
 
The Phenom AM3 triple cores are a step up from the processor you have listed . You'd need to check your motherboards cou compatbility but an X3 710 is $119 and the X3 20 is around $145 .
These are Phenom ll cpu's and a fair bit better than the cpu you have chosen IMO
 

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I was thinking about it this morning too, so i tried to make another quoting, here's what i came up with:

MOTHERBOARD:
ASUS P5N-D ATX(Nvidia nForce 750i SLI, SATA, RAID) = $134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=Asus+p5n-d&x=19&y=33

CPU:
INTEL Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz = $279.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=intel+q9550

RAM:
CORSAIR 4GB (2x2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM = $77 (or x2 for 8GB)/($37.00 x2 for 8GB after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145215

VIDEO CARD:
EVGA 512-P3-N884-AR GeForce 9800GTX = $149.99 ($129.99 after rebate) x2 for SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130420
or
GALAXY GeForce 9800GT 512MB, DDR3, PCIe2.0, SLI Ready = $114.99 ($89.99 after rebate)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4312356&Sku=G458-9810

PSU:
CORSAIR TX750W PSU-ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready, CrossFire Ready 80+ = $129.99 ($109.99 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

TOTAL = $998.95 (w/ 2x 9800GTX) / $928.95 (w/ 2x 9800GT)

after rebate
TOTAL = $858.95 (w/ 2x 9800GTX) / $778.95 (w/ 2x 9800GT)

+64.99 for Hard Drive (SEAGATE Barracuda 7200.11)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148288

i wanna use this for korean online games and high-end 3d gaming in the future, hmmm...i'm still confused between amd or intel though, but i think i will go for nvidia for video card.

I don't know if this is a good build that will last for years and if this will be able to keep up on my gaming style (playing for more than 24hrs sometimes), i'm planning to buy a fan for the cpu, since i don't trust the retailed fan.

1.)Should i go with 2x 9800GT? or 2x 9800GTX (can afford)? or 1 9800GTX will be enough?

2.)Should i really use SLI?

3.)Should i use RAID function, which will certainly make me use 2 Hard Disk for RAID 0 then 1 more Hard Disk for Back up which i think makes it RAID 5.

4.) As for the chassis and monitor, i will come up later when i've decided the important parts, so i hope u can help me out on building a high-end affordable Gaming PC.
 

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which one will be a good choice, in performance and price?
INTEL
MOTHERBOARD:
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R LGA1366 - around $210.00
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2989

MICROPROCESSOR:
INTEL CORE i7 920 Nehalem 2.55 GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202

or

AMD
MOTHERBOARD:
GIGABYTE GA-MA790FXT-UD5P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128377&Tpk=GA-MA790FXT-UD5P
MICROPROCESSOR:
AMD PHENOM II X4 810 2.6 GHz 4 x 512KB L2 4MB L3 AM3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103650

 

xthekidx

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You need some work here. What is your budget? Its very difficult to make suggestions when we don't know how much you can spend.

First of all, the 7 series nvidia chipsets are not good boards. They are very unstable and have a lot of problems, I do not recommend using them. If you are set on SLI, then you should go for the x58 chipset and an ASUS P6T mobo. Is there a reason you want to go with Nvidia rather than ATI? Both companies are doing very well and both have very good things to offer, ATI's cards tend to be more bang for the buck.

The GPU you need is highly dependant on the size of monitor you will play on. If you have a big monitor then you need a better card. I don't recommend the 9800GT or GTX because you can find ATI cards that perform similarly for less. Brand loyalty will only limit your options and is not something that I subscribe to.

Do not get Seagate 7200.11 drives. They are baaaaaaaaad. Fail all the time. The 7200.12 drives are better, so you could pick up a couple of those if you wanted, or go with the WD3200AAKS 320gb drives.

Get this ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184

About the only selection you made that I agree with is the PSU.

The i7 route will give you the best processor you can get, however it is quite expensive and if you can't spend the money for 6gb of ddr3 ram and a decent x58 board then don't do it because your i7 will be crippled and not very upgradable. This is the only reliable SLI platform that I recommend. I wouldn't SLI because it seems you are on a somewhat tight budget, and probably won't be able to afford this.

If you go for an AMD build, use the PIIx3 720 or PIIx4 940 processor on an AM2+ chipset for the best performance/price. You see almost no gains from DDR3 and it costs way more.

Here is my suggestion for you:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=8899425
After MIR you get about $1008 + $35 or so for shipping. You can get the 720 instead and save about $70 there. If you go for an Nvidia card instead, then you can get the Corsair 550vx PSU. This means that you will not be able to go with two GPU's in the future however.

That build will do very well in most games on a 19-22" monitor. It leaves the door open to xfire later on if you needed more power down the road.
 

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Very nice...cool, thnx for this....
There are two more things that affects me....do i need to use xfire since i'm going to get an mboard and gpu with xfire config? i tried an ATI gpu before but, really sucked me out, i guess it would work better if i used xfire before. Will a stand alone 1GB or 2 cheaper 512MB GPU card be better?

GPU Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131117

i'm quoting for another laptop and with the consideration of the last few suggestions ^^, ryt now have to work for the greenies. any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

For now, don't think money as a problem, but i wanna be practical on choosing which ones are better and which ones will last long.

And for the Hard Disk, should i put consideration on using a RAID system, or just get a reliable HDD?
 
You don't have to use Crossfire. Get the best card you can afford for now, and use Crossfire later only if you really need it.

I'd just get a reliable HDD. The WD Black Caviar 640GB is one of the best these days.

 

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+1 to a single hard drive with backups. The advice I've always taken on RAIDs is that if you're not already sure you need one, you probably don't.

I'm not sure that a case is as unimportant as you think it is. If you're worried about reliability with a lot of long gaming sessions, I'd want to be sure I had a good case with enough airflow to keep the components cool under that stress.
 

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How about the western digital velociraptor? i think i can afford that one too....coz i don't think i will be using too much space, 150GB is really a lot for me.
 

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I think you would be better served spending that money elsewhere, the GPU for instance. The Velociraptors are fast, but not that much faster than the WD6401AALS.
 
It's like 120 MB/s vs 100 MB/s for large files (20% faster), and maybe 30% faster for small files. I doubt it's worth paying 2 times more for that, and getting 4 times less space too.
 

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nice replies, considering from the previous comments and suggestions and also from other sites, i've come up with 2 systems, almost alike only different in mboard and cpu, hope to get some critiques on these systems considering the amount i have to pay.

[strike]AS FOR INTEL[/strike]
MOTHERBOARD:
ASUS P5Q-E LGA 775 $144.99
or
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P $ 134.99
MICROPROCESSOR:
INTEL CORE 2 QUAD-Q9550-2.83 GHz $ 279.99
RAM:
GSKILL 4GB(2X2GB) DDR2 PC2 6400 (5-5-5-15) $ 44.99
HARD DRIVE:
WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLACK 640GB (32MB Cache) $ 79.99
VIDEO CARD:
SAPPHIRE HD4870 1GB $ 239.99
POWER SUPPLY:
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX ATX12V SLI,XFIRE READY $119.99
SUBTOTAL (W/ ASUS mobo) - $909.94
SUBTOTAL (W/ GIGA mobo) - $899.94



[strike]AS FOR AMD[/strike]
MOTHERBOARD:
ASUS M3A79-T DELUXE AM2+/AM2 790 FX DDR2 $194.99
or
GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4 AM2+/AM2 DDR2 $114.99
MICROPROCESSOR:
AMD PHENOM II X4 940 DENEB 3.0 GHz AM2+ $229.00
RAM:
GSKILL 4GB (2X2GB) DDR2 PC2 6400 $44.99
HARD DRIVE:
WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLACK 640 GB (32MB Cache) $ 79.99
VIDEO CARD:
SAPPHIRE HD4870 1GB $239.99
POWER SUPPLY:
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX ATX 12V SLI,XFIRE READY $119.99
SUBTOTAL (W/ ASUS mobo) - $908.95
SUBTOTAL (W/ GIGA mobo) - $828.95


I hope these one's are better than the previous systems that i asked.
 

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Hi I'm a new user and i'm thinking of building a decent gaming rig+monitor for about £900. am also planning to overclock. can anyone give me any ideas about components to buy.
 

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Start a new topic in the forum and we will help you out.
 

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i think they don't have anymore in-stock of the toxic edition, also will it be bad for my system if i change down to a Sapphire HD4850 512MBor 1GB?