Help PC Upgrades (Gaming)

[EncryptedBlade]

So I currently I have a pc that I used to play counterstrike on and I want to upgrade it but I am a bit of a newb when it comes to parts and stuff. At the moment I have;
Processer: AMD A4-4000 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Graphics Card:AMD Radeon HD 7480D
MotherBoard:GIGABYTE GA-F2A55M-DS2
Ram:8GB
CPU:3.0GHz
Dedicated Video Ram:768 MB
OS:Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Edition

I would like to get a better graphics card but I figured I might need to get a better motherboard and processor that would support the graphics card. I would like a graphics card that it 3gb-4gb that is under £200any ideas?

Also I would like a list of things I would need to be able to input the graphics cards eg. recommended processors, motherboards etc.

I found this motherboard:Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Motherboard
I found this Processor:AMD FX6300 Black Edition 6 Core
This Graphics card:Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 1033MHz 3GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI OC
Would I be able to put this all into my current pc and it run well together? If not please suggest alternatives

Thanks A Lot For Your Help ps. I would like to run CSGO on roughly 100fps(if possible in my price range) Thanks again 😀

 

[geofelt]

From my reading CSGO is single threaded and cpu limited.
A FX-6300 with 6 slow cores is not much help.
And the Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Motherboard is not recommended for FX-6300 and higher wattage processors.

GTX660 may be good, depending on the price. Look for the newly announced GTX960 which is superior and should be not too different in price.

On the cpu side, take a look at the G3258, a $70 cpu that can be overclocked to insane single core speeds.

Here is tom's budget build using it:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-budget-gaming-pc,3943.html

 

[margibso]

How much are you looking to spend in total on your upgrade? Also what power supply do you have?

 

[EncryptedBlade]

How much are you looking to spend in total on your upgrade? Also what power supply do you have?

Well I have £200 atm but I was thinking of buying it in batchs and then putting it all together but around £300 in total maybe £350

 

[EncryptedBlade]

From my reading CSGO is single threaded and cpu limited.
A FX-6300 with 6 slow cores is not much help.
And the Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Motherboard is not recommended for FX-6300 and higher wattage processors.

GTX660 may be good, depending on the price. Look for the newly announced GTX960 which is superior and should be not too different in price.

On the cpu side, take a look at the G3258, a $70 cpu that can be overclocked to insane single core speeds.

Here is tom's budget build using it:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-budget-gaming-pc,3943.html

Please could you make this more simple as I am a bit of newb

 

[margibso]

I threw together a MOBO,CPU, GPU combination for 270 pounds
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/margibso/saved/XL7nTW
There is still the question of what RAM you have and how powerful your power supply is. The strength of you powersupply can be a big limiting factor in your upgrade plan.

 

[EncryptedBlade]

I threw together a MOBO,CPU, GPU combination for 270 pounds
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/margibso/saved/XL7nTW
There is still the question of what RAM you have and how powerful your power supply is. The strength of you powersupply can be a big limiting factor in your upgrade plan.

I have 8gb ram and power is 13amp I think

 

[margibso]

13amp is not much. A GTX 960 is probably the best card you can get with that (the R9 280 would be too much for it), and even then I would be careful to make sure I had all the right connections (either one 8 pin or one 6 pin depending on the model) and enough power delivery.
The other thing you will want to check on the power supply is how much power delivery it has on both the 12V rails and make sure it is enough to cover both the CPU and GPU that you pick (Ex: FX-6300 pulls 95W GTX 960 pulls 120W so you would need 220W plus headroom, I would say at least 250 if not 270) this number should be just below the amp rating for the 12V lines http://imageshack.com/a/img540/3517/NOIiOa.jpg
in this example it would be 312W.

 

[geofelt]

13 amp(156w @12v.) is puny for a power supply. You likely can't run any discrete card stronger than a GTX750.
Exactly what make/model do you have?
Here is a chart of psu requirements:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Most games are programmed very simply and depend on one core for most of their compute needs.
For such games, the faster that core is, the better.
More sophisticated programming can break apart the game to be able to use a second core for supporting tasks.
Many are in this category.
It is the rare game like FSX that can use many cores.
BF4 multiplayer might also be in that category.
Here is an older article that explores that:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bottleneck,2738.html

 

[margibso]

Yea, I agree with geofelt. Low quality power supplies are notorious for not meeting their rated specs and a GTX 960 would almost certainly choke it. Unless you are upgrading your power supply you are stuck with a 750 ti as your best option.

 

[EncryptedBlade]

13amp is not much. A GTX 960 is probably the best card you can get with that (the R9 280 would be too much for it), and even then I would be careful to make sure I had all the right connections (either one 8 pin or one 6 pin depending on the model) and enough power delivery.
The other thing you will want to check on the power supply is how much power delivery it has on both the 12V rails and make sure it is enough to cover both the CPU and GPU that you pick (Ex: FX-6300 pulls 95W GTX 960 pulls 120W so you would need 220W plus headroom, I would say at least 250 if not 270) this number should be just below the amp rating for the 12V lines http://imageshack.com/a/img540/3517/NOIiOa.jpg
in this example it would be 312W.

Would i be able to just buy a new power lead , if so how much? And if not what would i have to do to get it higher

Thanks
Again man

 

[margibso]

I'm not sure what you mean by power lead. You would need to replace the entire power supply which will run you about 40 pounds.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/margibso/saved/XL7nTW
I updated the list I made earlier with a new power supply included. This power supply would be just enough for the system.

Your other option as geofelt mentioned is to just get a GTX 750 ti (60W @ 5A) although if you are already upgrading the motherboard, CPU, and GPU I would really think about getting that power supply.

 

[EncryptedBlade]

I'm not sure what you mean by power lead. You would need to replace the entire power supply which will run you about 40 pounds.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/margibso/saved/XL7nTW
I updated the list I made earlier with a new power supply included. This power supply would be just enough for the system.

Your other option as geofelt mentioned is to just get a GTX 750 ti (60W @ 5A) although if you are already upgrading the motherboard, CPU, and GPU I would really think about getting that power supply.

Lets if i were to purchase all the items in your list, what would
My fps be like on csgo? Would i be able to play any other games after getting this upgrade (dayz,arma 3 or even battlefield line) , if so what fps


Ty so much

 

[margibso]

The GTX 960 is superior to the current generation of consoles. You would be able to play everything. There are a few games that might stress the processor and slow you down (60 player BF4 maps), but this is the best gaming system you can get for your budget.
While I don't have benchmarks for it, this system is way past the recommended specs for csgo, so you will probably be well above 60fps.

Also now that I know that you are thinking of getting my exact recommendations I would look at getting the Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P motherboard. It is a few pounds more and has a better thermal design for overclocking. So if you wanted to save up and get an aftermarket cooler later so that you can overclock the 6300 (highly recommended!) the Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P will handle it better.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/margibso/saved/XL7nTW

 

[EncryptedBlade]

So its been 4 days since I created this thread to seek advice and I would like to say a massive thank you to everyone who replied and helped me out I think I have found my solution and thats margibso's list that he kindly made for me. I just hope it all works and lets me play the games I want on a decent fps.

 

[margibso]

Hi EncrytedBlade, have fun with your new build
Just one final thing to check. The GTX 960 is a 170mm length card, which isn't very long, but you still might want to take a tape measure and make sure that it will fit in your case.