help!! QUAD 6700 with no IHS is this safe?

[tektek]

Hi there..i bought a used mobo/cpu from a friend with a case..
i just bought a zalman air cooler since he gave me his stock..
when i took his hsf off and tried to put the zalman on..i noticed that
the bracket to hold the 775 socket cpu was removed...and the quad
6700 had no IHS.. i managed to slowly put my zalman on..and now im hitting 38-39 C idle...and 51-55 on heavy loads.. no OC.
Is this a safe setup? shouldnt there be a IHS to protect the quad core?
dont want to lose my money cuz of it...any ideas?

Thanks

 

[dagoth_ur]

Imo the heavy zalman on the CPU without IHS is not a good idea, I suggest you not to move your computer, ie on LANparties etc, because it may damage the cores...the temps seem to be o.k.

 

[tektek]

Well its not gonna be moving thats for sure..
is there a place i can buy an IHS and install it..if thats even possible?

 

[7499richard]

What exactly is an IHS, intel heat spreader?

I see people talking about them everywhere and I have no idea what it is?

Your friends sold you a top of line comp...or at least processor...what did he/she upgrade too?

 

[Wizzard1]

AMD has them too- Integrated Heat Spreader :-D

 

[7499richard]

Oh lol...

So what is the IHS...just the cover over the cores, the top of the processor?

Thanks

 

[tektek]

yah its top of the line..he's getting an xps laptop...
im just worried that the thing wont live long...with the IHS off..
i see articles about people who OC doing it all the time..the thing is
..is it safe...is my ZALMAN 9700 too big for it? so far its holding on 39-41 depending on the fan speed...even when i play heavy games like
F.E.A.R ..which is mostly GPU ...no issues...
oh..its on an ABIT AW9 mobo with ddr2-1000 (yah pc 8000)

so no complaints performance wise..just worried about the longivity
..
8O :?

 

[tektek]

that gives me some relief..thanx man..i'll look into water cooling...
do you have any suggestions to ones that arent overboard in price
since buying this cost me an arm and 2 legs...

 

[tektek]

thanx again..i'll start searching next month...is it better to return my zalman and just save up for the water cooling instead...70 bux and then maybe in 2 weeks i'll shell out another 80 ...saw some water cooling options for 150 dollars at frys...then again i got 2 weeks to return it..so maybe i'll hold on to the zalman for 2 weeks then return it..
just wish i can remember what that type of water cooling was..

thanx again guys...made me feel a bit safer now..lol (stress stress)
8O 8O 8O

 

[tektek]

god thats making me drool looking at that..it actually fits in the case
...the price ...well...makin my mouth go dry...lol
so i take the 150 dollar thermaltakes are bad?
or just need more work?

 

[tektek]

thanx for the education..appreciate it.
there's alot of interesting options...but like u said that one u suggested
seems most appropriate...what would be ur second choice if you had to?

p.s. peanut butter guy...no comment..too much sugar

 

[Raviolissimo]

is an LGA775 without the lid anything like an Athlon, the way they packaged it bare with the 4 round foam things to rest the heat sink on ?

just wondering if any of the modders have used a similar approach on lidless Pentium's.

 

[aigomorla]

there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY your C2D chip doesnt have an IHS.

IF you have a NON IHS C2D please have your friend PM me on how he took his off sucessfully.

ONLY AMD chips or OLD P4 chips can have there IHS removed safely. Intel uses a metal Sodder on the DIE directly to mount there IHS.

That is why i said ITS IMPOSSIBLE for you to have a non IHS QX. If it truely is a QX without IHS, then by god, go over to xtremesystems.org/forums and TELL US how you pulled it off. You'll be a legend on that forum if you pulled it off sucessfully.


As for now, i highly doubt your friend gave you a QX without an IHS. I think your getting something mixed up.

That shiny thing reflecting is the IHS. As i said its impossible to remove without breaking your DIE. Many have tried, a lot of dead X6800 chips are in the landfill as a result from it.


I think your friend either
1. is a genius at removing it
2. lied to you straight up saying its a QX. You might have a mobile C2D which naturally comes with an IHS missing.

 

[aigomorla]

heh... taco show me please 😀

I prefer my IHS nakked. So far from what i was reading, the sodder melts at around 90C. i think.

So you would need to heat the chip to 90C and then pop it off without cracking the DIE.


NICE.... lol... i dont think the owner would of sold a IHSless QX, to a beginner. That would be like me dropping my entire setup on my brother.


But yeah op, Taco is right, a QX should have 2 dies ontop of the PCB. If your thing is really IHSless, then you should see 2 dies if its a real QX

 

[tektek]

It has 2 dies...and it is QX6700...here's my cpu'z report for validation

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=183235

plz tell me if this is wrong..i'd love to kick him in the nuts if isnt..
but yah..i dont want to open up the thing and take pictures of it
but i can tell you..it has no IHS..and i did see 2 dies on the top of the PCB
thats why im worried the zalman was gonna be too heavy...
i might get a water cooler in the next 2 weeks based on taco's recommendation..when i do..i'll take pics and post them

 

[chuckshissle]

No IHS is better when it comes to cooling since the cpu cooler is in direct contact thus heat transfer is better. But without IHS is bad since it's not protected at all. Too much pressure on that chip and it will crack or dislocated it so to speak. Make sure you're cooler is snug and evenly tightened. Support the cooler to the case to minimize the movement.

That is kind of odd you QX6700 don't have a IHS. I read some reviews that some people and trying to remove IHS from Core 2s and failed, ending up damaging the chip and not running at all. The original owner must be a hard core enthusiasts, taking out the IHS and exposing the chip. LOL.

 

[tektek]

yah i have it snug..i had to make sure it wasnt gonna move or slip or anything so i made sure its ok...i hope it can hold for 2 weeks at least
till i get th water cooler..he is into modding i just want the thing for my 3D work..and occasional gaming...so far i had no problems..temps are holding from 38-41 on idle depending on fan speed.. and to 55-60 on heavy loads..also depends on fan speed...
didnt know the QX6700 was hard to remove the IHS..guess i gotta
give him more credit than i thought..but my only concern is..
IS IT SAFE!! if not..i better sell it to some OC'er who'd appreciate it more
lol
:?

 

[tektek]

lol i dont think he'd mind if your ok with the risk..lol
im actually gonna go with your suggestion taco..that box u showed me
had some good reviews..and seems like it'll fit perfectly in the case..
the theory of it being a chiller more than a water cooler makes it even more worth considering.
Never thought the QX would go that high in temps..guess i should thank him now..lol


(any buyers...full system with 2 gigs of ddr2-1000 and abit mobo) lol
(will not ship to nigeria..) ... damn dont know if im joking or serious now
8O :?: 8O

 

[tektek]

oh well..better i find out now than later...thanx for the update..
yup after that last post..i know im a noob in this field...
just got off playing fear right now and although its not heavy in cpu load
the temps were 50 C solid..so i guess so far no threat.


again thanx for all the update guys...i might be able to sleep tonight
lol

8O

 

[tektek]

sounds good with me...show me the way obi one! i have the force
but dont know how to use it...(ok going overboard now..lol)

no rush though..i need a few weeks b4 i can buy it..but still thanx for
the help.

 

[tektek]

Done!
was thinking that too...so i got it sitting flat now..lol

 

[tektek]

yah...i need some sense at least to keep this working
or the wallet wont stop crying..lol

I'll keep looking at water cooling solutions..and post them
if you dont mind i'd like to post them here for suggestions/approval

 

[tektek]

hey..just a thought..i know i might be wrong..but
isnt it extra weight to have it on the side with the Zalman sitting on it now
with gravity..compared to fixed hanging on the side? it wont slide now..but doesnt it mean its more weight?..maybe i should turn the case the other way around and let the zalman hang upside down..lol

 

[darkstar782]

Wow, I've never heard of anyone stripping the IHS from a s775 CPU and the thing still working before.

I want one 😀

 

[tektek]

lol ..dunno if i should be laughing..but thats whats scaring me..that
everyone is saying its impossible..and no one did it b4..yet..this
cpu is working fine...i did a stress test with orthos and temps went to 55
did another stability test with everist 100% load on all cpu's
and still 55 C...benchmarks seemed good too...the quad keeps coming up
on top of almost everything even the quad xeon (everist benchmarks 2007)

so..is this the first 775 socket (core 2 duo) that works with a stripped IHS
in history.....or....(fill in the blanks)