[SOLVED] Help to evaluate my gaming rig build around 1700 - 1900 Euros

[Ulfgar85]

Hi all, I'd like to buy a new gaming pc since I've got some money saved up and I want to upgrade my rig. So I've surfed around the net and I've made a build I want some feedback on, just to make sure the best choice given the budget I have at my disposal is made (and also to make sure all the parts are compatible with each other). I should tell you that I have no intention of upgrading the machine anytime soon once the purchase is made.

Approximate Purchase Date: within the next few months
Budget Range: around 1700-1900 Euros
Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS
Reference Website for Parts: amazon.it
Country: Italy
Overclocking: Mild (first time trying it out)
SLI or Crossfire: Very unlikely
Main use for rig: Gaming and probably some streaming

This is the setup I had in mind:

CPU: AMD Ryezn 7 3700X 285,00 Euros
Motherboard: MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX ATX 140,61 Euros
RAM: CORSAIR PC Vengeance LPX 2 x 16 GB DDR4-3200 CL16 159,04 Euros
SSD: SAMSUNG 860 EVO 1 TB M.2 177,99 Euros
HDD: WD Black 2 TB 131,00 Euros
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Super Gaming X 572,89 Euros
Power supply: Seasonic Focus PX-550 W - 80 PLUS Platinum 110,99 Euros
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH - U14S 69,90 Euros

Total price: 1647,42 Euros

Case (already owned): COOLER MASTER Cabinet PC HAF X

I've already considered buying the AMD 3600X for CPU and downgrading the RAM to 16GB. But saving a few bucks is not an issue and I'd like to upgrade the machine as little as possible in the future so the choice of CPU and RAM was made with future in mind rather than cost efficiency.

I've also considered changing the CPU for an Intel 9700k, but apart from the increased cost, I was leaning towards trying an AMD build since I wanted to try AMD processors this time around since their resurgence of late.

Thank you for your time and I hope everything was clear enough!

 

[tennis2]

Looks like a good list to me. Maybe a NVMe SSD instead?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (€285.00 @ Amazon Italia)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler (€74.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard (€219.00 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€141.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€171.74 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: Western Digital Red 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (€113.77 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card (€572.89 @ Amazon Italia)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 550 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€109.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €1689.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-24 16:23 CEST+0200

 

[logainofhades]

I would change the B450 to a B550 board. They are simply better boards. Ram I would switch to DDR4 3600 CL16. For ssd, switch to an Intel 660p/665p, or crucial P1/P2. Faster, and should be cheaper. If you need to save some cash, switch the hdd out for something cheaper like a Seagate 2tb.

 

[Ulfgar85]

Looks like a good list to me. Maybe a NVMe SSD instead?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (€285.00 @ Amazon Italia)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler (€74.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard (€219.00 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€141.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€171.74 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: Western Digital Red 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (€113.77 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card (€572.89 @ Amazon Italia)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 550 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€109.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €1689.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-24 16:23 CEST+0200

Hey tennis2, thanks for you reply. I'd like to ask you the reasoning behind the change in motherboard.

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

[Ulfgar85]

I would change the B450 to a B550 board. They are simply better boards. Ram I would switch to DDR4 3600 CL16. For ssd, switch to an Intel 660p/665p, or crucial P1/P2. Faster, and should be cheaper. If you need to save some cash, switch the hdd out for something cheaper like a Seagate 2tb.

Thanks logainofhades for your insight. Just to have more context in the purchase, apart from the newer motherboard, does it really make that much of a difference the RAM speed increase? Same question goes for the SSD: is the increase in speed needed and why in your opinion?

I thank you in advance for the information you can give me.

 

[King Dranzer]

I would recommend holding off the purchase for few more months. Which will be big performance jump. In the mean time add as much as possible to the budget and go all out and get satisfactory build which will last long with minimal to no compromise in performance.

 

[logainofhades]

For games the increased speed doesn't matter much, SSD wise. The SSD's, that I mentioned, are typically cheaper, than the one you listed, and also being NVME, there are less cables to deal with, as they have a direct slot, on the motherboard, to plug into. Ryzen likes fast ram. DDR4 3600 CL16, is the sweet spot, for price/performance.

 

[tennis2]

Hey tennis2, thanks for you reply. I'd like to ask you the reasoning behind the change in motherboard.

Thanks in advance for the input.

The B450 Tomahawk is a great board, but the MSI X570 Gaming Edge Wifi also has:

• better VRM,
• should enable higher memory speeds (FWIW)
• PCIE 4.0
• More USB
• Onboard WiFi
• Other smaller differences.

https://www.msi.com/comparison/moth...LUVER0UtV0lGSQ==","QjQ1MC1UT01BSEFXSy1NQVg="]

 

[AngelJin]

W8 for ryzen 3000xt -4000 series and new gpu's even if u make the same system u will save money. If u cant w8 buy a better psu not 550w for this system.

 

[tennis2]

We can suggest you wait until September-November for the next gen CPUs and GPUs to launch, but only you can decide if you're willing to.

I would suggest a nice 80+ Gold 650W-750W PSU instead as well. I left that 550W in there simply because it's top of the line, and yes, it's enough for your build. I did hum and haw about leaving it in.

Having even an extra 100W can go a long way in the future. PC hardware (especially GPUs) is a gateway drug. Your next GPU purchase will probably end up being slightly higher on the product stack than the 2070 Super is this gen.
Also, since many high end PSUs have semi-passive fan operation, having a higher base wattage allows you to operate fanless at a higher power draw (if that's something that's attractive to you)

 

[logainofhades]

The B450 Tomahawk is a great board, but the MSI X570 Gaming Edge Wifi also has:

• better VRM,
• should enable higher memory speeds (FWIW)
• PCIE 4.0
• More USB
• Onboard WiFi
• Other smaller differences.

https://www.msi.com/comparison/motherboard/?unique=id1593093357384&compare_list=["TVBHLVg1NzAtR0FNSU5HLUVER0UtV0lGSQ==","QjQ1MC1UT01BSEFXSy1NQVg="]

The VRM's, on that board, are terrible.

 

[Ulfgar85]

I'd like to thank you all for your replies, I'll evaluate and adjust some parts based on the inputs given, especially the mobo, SDD and RAM.

And I'll consider waiting for the next reveals in hardware which would eventually same me some money, even if right now I could make a good arrangement which would save me the VAT (thus spending way less than the retail price given that VAT is 22% in Italy).

Thanks to all of you for your time and contribution, if noone else has anything to add, I'd consider the discussion closed.