Help wanted with Full System for gaming and vms ($2-2.5k)

Jul 10, 2015
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Hello, I've been following tom's hardware for awhile and been enjoying reading the articles on new hardware and seeing other people give advice on the forums. I've been considering building a desktop computer for awhile and with the new graphics cards finally out from AMD, it seem all the top end options for graphics cards out until the next generation.


Approximate Purchase Date: Not sure. I'm fine with waiting if it makes sense in order to save money or for better components to be released.

Budget Range: No set budget but was thinking $2-2.5k for all the parts but not a strict limit. Still, I don't want 'waste' money by spending a lot for just a tiny increase in performance.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Running VMs (Virtual Machines), programming/development.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: None, this will be my first build. Need everything from the CPU to things like a mouse and keyboard.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, I'm also looking for advice on if I should get the OEM version or a full version.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I'm most familiar with TigerDirect, Newegg, and Microcenter but would be willing to buy some any trustworthy source.

Location: Eastern USA. Can go to Microcenter since I seen them be mentioned for having good deals.

Parts Preferences: No preference but from what I read, Intel is the way to go for high end processors.

Overclocking: Maybe. I would prefer not to really reduce the lifespan of the components (not really sure if it really impacts lifespan that much or not).

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, I heard there can be issues with setups using multiple GPUs?

Your Monitor Resolution: I'm open to recommendations. I would like a dual monitor setup at the least. Also, I don't want 4k. From what I'm reading, it takes too much money/power to drive that resolution and doesn't seem worth the investment at this point in time.

Additional Comments: Quiet PC would be preferred but not a huge deal as long it's not really loud. I definitely want a PC case that's easy to clean and does a good job of keeping the components cool and free from dust (as much as possible). Finally, I care about performance/functionality. I don't care about fancy lighting (in fact, I find flashing LEDs a bit annoying).

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I would like to be able to play the latest games (I currently just have a cheap laptop) and also have the ability to run multiple VMs for testing out programs. Another issue with the laptop is I'm frequently working on multiple things and the 8 GB of RAM gets eaten up completely.

Thank you in advance to anyone who has time to read through my wall of text.
 
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Keyboard and other items are all personal preference. 16-32GB will be great for running vm's. Overclocking is not necessary but can improve performance. It will reduce the life but not by much.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($378.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($200.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.95 @ OutletPC)...
Keyboard and other items are all personal preference. 16-32GB will be great for running vm's. Overclocking is not necessary but can improve performance. It will reduce the life but not by much.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($378.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($200.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.95 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($688.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($86.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer GN246HL 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($236.49 @ B&H)
Total: $2256.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-10 18:30 EDT-0400
 
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Jul 10, 2015
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Thank you for your quick response.

So if I would like a dual monitor set up (maybe playing a game on one while monitoring a VM in the other for example), would you recommend just buying two of those Acer screens? If so, should the 980 TI be able to handle it just fine?
 

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I don't know what 8.1's RAM access limits are <break> oh, ya forget that comment.
32GB seems like such a nice figure. Going socket 2011 leaves a good upgrade path if
you find you need to increase RAM at some point or add a second graphics card to
extend the life of your build. The 5930 and 5960 are good upgrades two years down
the road if you need more speed, cores or lanes. It also is a clear step above the
current 1150 boards.

People want future proof but should be looking at headroom as newer tech moves up
into the food chain - you get that with the motherboard options.

 

fport

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IntelTurtleFan says:

"No upgrade will be needed on x99 :) it is good enough and will last a while."

Oh unbeliever, Moore's Law is not an absolute it is an indicator that the river will flow around any
obstacles in its path if it doesn't just outright wear them to nothing.

We've just done Witcher 3 which is still reverberating through the marketplace as a new high point for hardware.

We're on the edge of 4K.

We are on the edge of the Oculus Rift.

The world moves on one iteration after the other and the wheel advances in lockstep with the forces of programming
and hardware design. But, one tiny advance can throw all of that into the maw of an insatiable grinding momentum
called progress.

I digress, yes X99 is a great solution. But. It. too. will. be. subsumed.

What I am saying is that the OP will have lots of headroom left in his build to carry on happily for some time yet
and also that the platform will allow him to grow in various ways from where he is now in his endeavors.