[SOLVED] Help with a ~2000$ CAD Gaming Build (looking to Buy Tomorrow)

[jasonp12]

Please see my last post for my optional builds

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: ASAP

Budget Range: 2000$ Canadian before taxes after rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, multi tasking (surfing net/listening to music while gaming), watching Netflix

Are you buying a monitor: Yes (need a new monitor)



Parts to Upgrade: Need complete newbuild unless i can salvage something....but my comps 10 years old and run its course. I guess only the case and or mouse might be salvagable (CM Haf922 case and Logitech G5 mouse)

Do you need to buy OS: Yes windows please
Please note that if you're using an OEM license of Windows, you will need a new one when buying a new motherboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon.ca, Newegg.Ca, www.canadacomputers.com

Location: Toronto Canada (Canada Computers and or private shops are the only ones around)

Parts Preferences:Intel or AMD CPU doesnt matter, prever NVIDIA Graphics

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: Based on the monitor you suggest

Additional Comments: Budget can flex a bit and go lower or slightly higher if worthwhile or need be. I could also use speakers and or a headset. I mainly play the following games:
Dota2
Starcraft 2
CS:GO and CS:Source
Battlefield Series's

Also do i need a CD Burner/writer/dvd player anymore? (is 1 required to install windows?)

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My computer is slowly falling apart. Random hiccups/freezes. Sometimes Dota2 runs smooth others it stalls on loadout etc. Getting slow to turn on etc.

It was a good build for its day
AMD Phenom II X4 965
2x 2gb Corsair Ram
XFX RAdeon 6850
HAF 922 case
XFX 850w Gold PSU
CM Hyper 212

 

[AngelTech]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cBTd3b

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste ($15.47 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($175.35 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING X Video Card ($417.14 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($136.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Monitor: Asus VG279Q 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($429.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1659.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-29 22:40 EDT-0400

You could squeeze in an Intel CPU but that would mean changing the monitor and MOBO which would probably make you go over the $2000 budget also the big PSU is just for the future so you won't have to upgrade later and incase you overclock I chose a new case because you'll have better airflow in it most likely if you're worried about the lack of 3 fans you can buy a corsair LL120 3 pack.

 

[jasonp12]

Thank you.

Only question I have is the monitor...if going 27" and 144hz should i not be getting a 2560x1440 or is 1080p enough? Seems expensive for a 27" 1080p monitor.

The build you completed is one i was closing looking at.

Also is that GPU sufficient or should i splurge for a RTX2060? They can be had for about 50$ more? I know the 1660ti is a great card as well.

Thanks again.

 

[AngelTech]

Do you want to game at 1440P? if so I can probably change the GPU and monitor also GTX 1660 Ti is meant for 1080P.

EDIT: also forgot to mention no you don't need an optical drive to install windows you can buy a license that comes on a USB stick.

 

[jasonp12]

Do you want to game at 1440P? if so I can probably change the GPU and monitor also GTX 1660 Ti is meant for 1080P.

EDIT: also forgot to mention no you don't need an optical drive to install windows you can buy a license that comes on a USB stick.

Thank you very much. Yah been outa the hardware game quit some time as my computer has met my needs.

Could you maybe educate me on gaming at 1080p vs 1440p?

From my initiate research ive seen is that if i go 1080p just stay with a 24" monitor. If i go 1440p get a 27". Obviously refresh rate and Response time are the same as theyve always been so id want at least 144hz and no more then 2ms for a monitor for gaming.

But back to the original question is...are there any big differences pros/cons of gaming on a 24" 1080p vs a 27" 1440p? Does it depend on the game etc (obviously i know the 27" 1440p is more demanding on hardware)

Is a 24" more preferred for FPS type games and the 27" better for MOBA/RPG type games? Or is it all preferrance?

One thing I've read is that 27" 1440p is much better for multi tasking/web browsing as its much less eye strain?

Based on my initial research id lean more toward a 27" 1440p but im not sold either way so some advice/help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again.

 

[AngelTech]

You're welcome so it really depends I am gonna say the bigger monitor will probably help you never heard anything about 24" being the max for 1080P and yes it will depend on the game also most monitors are now 5-4 ms which isn't bad I am going 1440P myself my set up is a lot more extreme tho as I want to maintain 60 FPS 1440P on all the latest games for a while because I am quite the heavy gamer and honestly the whole thing of monitor size and resolution is all personal preference.

 

[jasonp12]

Sure if u can also show me a build with a 27" 1440p monitor that would be awesome.

 

[AngelTech]

Sure if u can also show me a build with a 27" 1440p monitor that would be awesome.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Z4TvHh

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste ($15.47 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($175.35 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($559.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($136.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($113.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Monitor: LG 32GK650F-B 32.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor ($499.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1985.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-30 09:02 EDT-0400

It's 32" because I couldn't find any that wouldn't go over 2000 besides this it's actually the monitor I am getting it's a free sync monitor but unofficially supports g sync meaning it works well.

 

[jasonp12]

Ok thanks.

 

[AngelTech]

Ok thanks.

You're welcome if you have any more questions about the build ask away.

 

[jasonp12]

I like the build. The only last question would be is it worthwhile to instead get a ryzen 5 2600k as theyre on sale for 180$ CAD and use the extra 100$ on a better GPU? Or leave it be

 

[AngelTech]

I like the build. The only last question would be is it worthwhile to instead get a ryzen 5 2600k as theyre on sale for 180$ CAD and use the extra 100$ on a better GPU? Or leave it be

For you, it may actually be a good idea to do so especially since you want to game at 1440P the extra graphics power will help in the long run but I would upgrade to a Ryzen 3rd or even 4th gen (when that releases) later down the line.
PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HDRsRJ also the 2600k doesn't exist it's called the 2600 but you can even squeeze in a 2600X and still stay in the budget.

 

[jasonp12]

Silly question.

I was going to goto canada computers to have them build and install this computer and price match. As its been a long time since ive done a build from scratch.

2 things.
1) it was 80$ for them to build is that reasonable or should i just do myself.

2) they suggested a 3 year extended warranty which theyll warranty and replace instore vs doing an RMA. Except this cost 320$ this seemed like a huge waste to me.

So should i get the warranty on cpu or gpu or is the mfr one good enough and 2 should i just do the build myself?

 

[AngelTech]

Silly question.

I was going to goto canada computers to have them build and install this computer and price match. As its been a long time since ive done a build from scratch.

2 things.
1) it was 80$ for them to build is that reasonable or should i just do myself.

2) they suggested a 3 year extended warranty which theyll warranty and replace instore vs doing an RMA. Except this cost 320$ this seemed like a huge waste to me.

So should i get the warranty on cpu or gpu or is the mfr one good enough and 2 should i just do the build myself?

You only need the mfr extended warranties aren't worth it well if you don't feel comfortable or don't have time to do it then it's worth it but if you have the time I'd probably build it myself but if you feel 100% uncomfortable then having someone else build is reasonable.

 

[jasonp12]

Thoughts on this build. Ill need to see if its in my budget. There will be about 40$ of price adjustments. If i can I may try to squeeze in a RTX 2060 Super over the Standard 2060. But if my budget is blown which option am I best with

Ryzen 5 2600 and an RTX 2060 Super (super is 70$ more then the regular RTX)
Ryzen 5 3600X and a GTX 1660 TI, maybe a RTX 2060

Im hoping to be able to get the build i see below which is a 3600X and a RTX2060 maybe even splurge and get a RTX 2060 Super.

Deepcool Kendomen RD Black with Red Highlights Window Mid Tower Case
- 2 Red LED Fans, 3 Black Fans
Item Code: CSDC000091
Online In Stock
Available In Stores
$59.99
-+

Cooler Master CPU cooler, Hyper 212 LED with PWM Fan (RR-212L-16PR-R1)
Item Code: COCLR00008
Online In Stock
Available In Stores
$33.99
$44.99
-+

WD Blue SN500 NVMe M.2 SSD, 500GB, Read: 1,700MB/s, Write: 1,450MB/s (WDS500G1B0C)
Item Code: SSWEE00045
Online In Stock
Available In Stores
$79.99
$99.99
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MSI Optix G24C 24" VA Curved FHD FreeSync LED Monitor I1920 x 1080, 144Hz, 1ms I HDMI, DVI, DisplayPort
Item Code: MTMSI00002
Online In Stock
Available In Stores
$244.99
$289.99
-+

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16)
Item Code: RAMC004195
Online In Stock
Available In Stores
$114.99
-+

GIGABYTE X570 GAMING X Motherboard with 10+2 Phases Digital VRM, Advanced Thermal Design with Enlarge Heatsink, Dual PCIe 4.0 M.2, M.2 Thermal Guard, GIGABYTE Gaming GbE LAN with Bandwidth Management, HDMI 2.0, RGB Fusion 2.0
Item Code: MBGIG00136
Order Online and Pick Up In-Store
Available In Stores
$229.00
-+

Corsair TX Series TX650M 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified Semi-Modular Power Supply (CP-9020132-NA)
Item Code: PSCOI00004
Online In Stock
Available In Stores
$119.99
-+

MSI GeForce RTX 2060 VENTUS 6G OC GDDR6 Dual Fan

• 1710 MHz Boost Clock, 14000 MHz Memory Clock
• PCI-E 3.0, 1xHDMI 2.0b, 3xDP1.4
• RTX 2060 VENTUS 6G OC

Item Code: VCMSI00131
Order Online and Pick Up In-Store
Available In Stores
$459.00
$489.00
-+

Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-Bit English OEM DVD (KW9-00140)
Item Code: SWMS003775
Online In Stock
Available In Stores
$139.99
$149.99
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AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-Core/12-Thread 7nm Processor
- Socket AM4 3.8GHz/ 4.4 GHz Boost, Wraith Spire Cooler, 95W (100-100000022BOX)
Item Code: CPAMD00056
Online In Stock
Available In Stores
$329.00

 

[AngelTech]

Thoughts on this build. Ill need to see if its in my budget. There will be about 40$ of price adjustments. If i can I may try to squeeze in a RTX 2060 Super over the Standard 2060. But if my budget is blown which option am I best with

Ryzen 5 2600 and an RTX 2060 Super (super is 70$ more then the regular RTX)
Ryzen 5 3600X and a GTX 1660 TI, maybe a RTX 2060

AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-Core/12-Thread 7nm Processor
- Socket AM4 3.8GHz/ 4.4 GHz Boost, Wraith Spire Cooler, 95W (100-100000022BOX)
Item Code: CPAMD00056
Online In Stock
Available In Stores
$329.00

The 3600X is an overclocked 3600 basically I'd suggest going the 3600 as the 3600X is a waste of money you'd be better off getting a 3600 and 2060 or2600 and 2060 SUPER I'd only get the super if you are serious about getting into more games.