Question Help with deciding if I should buy this used SSD ?

[CEALOA]

So I'm about to buy this used SSD, below are the test results:

 

[USAFRet]

Why used?

What is the price of a new 1TB MX500 for you, and how much is this one?

 

[CEALOA]

Why used?

What is the price of a new 1TB MX500 for you, and how much is this one?

pretty big gap between used and new in my country, i can't afford new ssd of this same model but this used one is the same price as the new BX500 1 TB

 

[USAFRet]

pretty big gap between used and new in my country, i can't afford new ssd of this same model it is the same price as new BX500 1tb

"pretty big" is not a number.

 

[CEALOA]

"pretty big" is not a number.

well, the mx500 1tb cost 3600EGP and this used one cost 1900EGP and the BX500 price is 2400EGP and my limit is around 2000EGP

 

[USAFRet]

Well...I probably wouldn't, but nothing in the SMART data looks really off to me.

 

[CEALOA]

Well...I probably wouldn't, but nothing in the SMART data looks really off to me.

thanks for your answers, I know that the idea of a used SSD is not preferable but as you can see the price gap, I have no other choice, so should I go on and buy it? but what about the block level erase count it is a 7 in the Crucial Executive software, do I need to worry about it? and will this SSD last

 

[Flayed]

Would the BX500 be so bad? I have a BX100 that is still good.

 

[Colif]

but what about the block level erase count it is a 7 in the Crucial Executive software, do I need to worry about it? and will this SSD last

Why does my SSD seem to be wearing prematurely?

Since the advent of NAND flash storage devices, flash wear-out has been an issue that receives significant attention.

www.crucial.com

SMART 173: SSD Wear Leveling. Counts the maximum worst erase count on a single block.

I have to guess SMART attributes mean same things across ssd. If that is its current value:

The Wear Leveling Count (WLC) SMART value gives us all the data we need. The current value stands for the remaining endurance of the drive in percentage, meaning that it starts from 100 and decreases linearly as the drive is written to. The raw WLC value counts the consumed P/E cycles, so if these two values are monitored while writing to the drive, sooner than later we will find the spot where the normalized value drops by one.

thats for Samsung - https://superuser.com/questions/1037644/samsung-ssd-wear-leveling-count-meaning

if its the same, its only got 7% left. I can't really find a lot on that smart value

https://www.crucial.com/support/articles-faq-ssd/ssds-and-smart-data - this shows the ones they see as important.
its difficult to guess if an ssd will last or not. Unlike hdd, they don't start to make noise before they die, so it can just stop one day.

 

[SkyNetRising]

so should I go on and buy it? but what about the block level erase count it is a 7 in the Crucial Executive software, do I need to worry about it? and will this SSD last

Looks good. I'd go for it.
It has been used for only 15 days. And 100% health remaining.
BX500 is significantly worse than MX500.

 

[Flayed]

Yes I see the 357 power on hours so it is virtually new, seems like a good deal.

 

[CountMike]

Yes I see the 357 power on hours so it is virtually new, seems like a good deal.

Unless firmware was changed.

 

[Flayed]

Unless firmware was changed.

Oh, I hadn't thought of that. I suppose it's the same with buying anything used, you pay your money and take your chance.

 

[fzabkar]

I wouldn't buy it. The firmware version suggests that this SSD is the latest version with a Silicon Motion SM2259 flash controller and Micron B47R NAND flash memory. People are reporting problems with this new combination.

That said, I bought this drive before I became aware of the problems, and I did so based on earlier versions which used the SM2258 controller. It's still working well, but it doesn't get much use (although it is powered on 24/7).

http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?p=22537#p22537

Crucial MX500 - Historically good, recent batches high failure rates:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/whr5ek/crucial_mx500_historically_good_recent_batches/

 

[CEALOA]

I wouldn't buy it. The firmware version suggests that this SSD is the latest version with a Silicon Motion SM2259 flash controller and Micron B47R NAND flash memory. People are reporting problems with this new combination.

That said, I bought this drive before I became aware of the problems, and I did so based on earlier versions which used the SM2258 controller. It's still working well, but it doesn't get much use (although it is powered on 24/7).

http://www.hddoracle.com/viewtopic.php?p=22537#p22537

Crucial MX500 - Historically good, recent batches high failure rates:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/whr5ek/crucial_mx500_historically_good_recent_batches/

Can you suggest me another hard drive I've been searching but i found that alot of people also complaining about failing ssd like 860 evo

 

[USAFRet]

Can you suggest me another hard drive I've been searching but i found that alot of people also complaining about failing ssd like 860 evo

All you hear about are the complaints.
The other 500,000 people that have NO problems rarely boast about it.

I have 2x 860 EVO and an MX500, nary a problem.

 

[punkncat]

I have purchased both used SSD as well as used HDD and rarely had any issue from them. I got batch of Sandisk that turned out to be junk, but was well known and they were CHEAP. I have used WD Blues, Samsung 800 series, various Crucial stuff, and some Kingston that were a mix of barely used and NOS.

The real trick here is that they have to be inexpensive enough to be really attractive alongside having a system that it makes sense to go used in. I used almost all of the above for things like old work PC refurbs, swapping laptops off HDD to SSD, things like that. Of them all, I have some of the Samsung 2.5 in use right now for game storage (nothing critical) and two of the Kingstons in use that both need replaced due to strange intermittent issues...just haven't done so yet.

All that to say that in my experience and the price paid they all worked out to be worthwhile even when calculating in the (few) failures.

 

[fzabkar]

Apart from the most recent version of the MX500, users are reporting problems with WD's SA510 and some SanDisk models.

Samsung has problems with the 870 Evo and related models.

https://forum.hddguru.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=42876

The 860 Evo seems to be OK. At least I have not heard any bad reports. In fact I have one.

If I were buying an SSD today, I would try SK hynix or Solidigm. I would have considered Kioxia, but after their merger with WD, I have to wonder whether they will inherit the WD/SanDisk disease.

BTW, all the bad SSDs have been issued with critical firmware updates. The telling factor is that none appear to have a detailed changelog explaining the reason for the update. I suspect that the flaw in each case is bad NAND rather than controller or firmware issues, but we'll never know unless some insider leaks the truth. One way to hide NAND issues is to preemptively refresh stale data. According to Russian researchers, that's what Samsung did with the 840 Evo.

Samsung 840 EVO - how to easily lose your data forever:
https://forum.acelab.eu.com/viewtopic.php?p=30079#p30079