Help with massive FPS issue

[M0U5EY1]

Hi guys, I have looked through countless forums and discussions and still found no answer to my question. When playing GTA (normally high+) and bf1 (ultra/high) the frames are fine for the first 20 ish mins and then they absolutely tank, massive frame drops anywhere down to 5 (normally 70-100) and its almost unplayable. I have no idea what it is or how to fix it so any help would be appreciated. Having experimented with bf1, even turning it down to low when the stuttering started and it was no better if not worse, here are the performance graphs for when I was running it on low for a bit;
http://imgur.com/a/F8t85
My specs are 4690k at 4.4Ghz 8gb hyper x fury 1070 ftw
Max temps on CPU are around 75-80 degrees.

 

[Multipack]

Your CPU is bottlenecking the GPU I can see that much. It's at 100% but the GPU doesn't really go above 80%. You might also be experiencing CPU throttling.

Are you using stock cooler? When was the last time you applied thermal paste?

Can you run HWInfo to see fan speeds, min/max temps etc?

 

[M0U5EY1]

Using a 212 EVO with max temps of around 80 degrees, last applied paste end of 2015 when i built it, HW info shows all is ok, nothing out of the ordinary and max temps of 80 as i said.

 

[Multipack]

Sustained temps over 80c are dangerous for the CPU. Like I say, you could be getting throttled as it overheats. The CPU is running at its maximum to keep up with the GPU, but the fps drops could be down to being throttled, or just because it cant keep up. You'd need to OC the CPU but for that yopu 100% need a better cooler or to re-apply the TiM.

 

[M0U5EY1]

What cooler would you recommend, something like a nzxt aio?

 

[13thmonkey]

What are the actual CPU clock speeds when this happens? Not what it is set to, but the actual reported clock speeds.

 

[M0U5EY1]

4.4Ghz according to HW, as they should be.

 

[13thmonkey]

And GPU clock speeds?

The only reason that this is being queried is that the drop after N minutes and 100% load is a classic set of symptoms for throttling.

 

[M0U5EY1]

GPU was fine i seem to remember, not playing right now but will double check the CPU speeds when i get back on later, GPU was only running around 60 degrees so i doubt that is throttling

 

[rgd1101]

How much RAM do you have?

 

[M0U5EY1]

8gb, using about 6-7 during games

 

[M0U5EY1]

Ok guys. having played some bf1 and watched absolutely everything I noticed that the disk usage was massively spiking to 100% and this is what was causing my issue, I have no idea why and if any of you know how I could fix this apart from getting an SSD that would be great. The issue was fairly intermittent playing the first map and then about 5 mins into the second map for some reason disk usage was up to 100% for rather long periods of time and that just made it unplayable, so that was the issue, any fixes would be appreciated!

 

[13thmonkey]

ok, in task manage, go into resource monitor and look at what is causing it, I doubt it is BF1 itself, most likely page file? moving the page file to a second disk might be useful.

 

[Multipack]

What disk is it? Is it SATA II or III? It may be that you could get a better disk or may you need a better SATA controller, but I doubt it. What board are you using? Could be background processes like AV etc.

 

[M0U5EY1]

Its a WD caviar blue 7200 rpm on a MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 board

 

[Multipack]

That disk shouldnt get a usage that high unless maybe it's SATA II. Do you know? Have you checked for other processes causing disk usage?

 

[M0U5EY1]

I didn't at the time no, will check when I next play. How could I check if its SATA II? I just plugged it in to the mobo with teh cables

 

[Multipack]

Run DiskInfo. Will tell you the SMART status etc too http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskInfo/index-e.html

You could also try checking the drive for errors by right clicking in File Explorer then choosing Properties>Tools.

 

[M0U5EY1]

This is the info;
http://imgur.com/a/dP24l

 

[Multipack]

It's SATA III and healthy. I'd check for other processes. I highly doubt a game would be using 100% of that HDD.

You could try defragging it etc, but I dont think it should be a problem. A proper chkdsk may be an idea.

 

[M0U5EY1]

Ok will do a chkdsk soon, will try defragging after

 

[M0U5EY1]

Ok, so got some weird things happening in task manager, so looking at the 'performance' tab, the 100% usage correlates perfectly with frame drops but in resource monitor and in the processes tab, it doesn't correlate and I didn't see it going to 100%. Any idea why this is happening? Is one read and one write or...?

 

[Multipack]

No, all will be disk total, but you can monitor read n write rates too in Res Mon. Did you choose the right disk in Performance tab?

That shouldn't happen tho obviously.

 

[M0U5EY1]

Yep, performance tab has it correct, any other ideas as to a fix?

 

[Multipack]

What is using the disk in process list? Open the Disk tab in Task Manager and sort it by highest usage % when it's at 100% to see whats using it. Whatever it is could be bottlenecking the rest of your system.