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OK, this runs well against theme and fun decks, but doesn't seem to
fare as well as expected in tournaments.
It started off as a Cloudpost deck before I got my Tooth and Nails.
I also incorporated as much of Florian Pils Remini deck as I
felt comfortable with. Then a friend traded me his T&N deck so I
could actually pull off the real thing. And finally added a splash
of Kamigawa.
List first then some comments:
4 x Cloudpost
16 x Forest
4 x Plains
1 x Birds of Paradise
2 x Eternal Witness
3 x Traproot Kami
2 x Bringer of the White Dawn
2 x Leonin Abunas
2 x Darksteel Colossus
4 x Duplicant
2 x Platinum Angel
2 x Naturalize
2 x Reap and Sow
2 x Rude Awakening
3 x Sylvan Scrying
3 x Tooth and Nail
1 x Ivory Mask
1 x Darksteel Forge
1 x Door to Nothingness
1 x Mindslaver
1 x Mycosynth Lattice
1 x Planar Portal
Sideboard:
1 x Traproot Kami
2 x Vine Trellis
1 x Darksteel Colossus
2 x Sundering Titan
1 x Naturalize
1 x Reap and Sow
1 x Rude Awakening
1 x Sacred Ground
1 x Crucible of Worlds
1 x Darksteel Forge
1 x Mindslaver
Comments;
Other Versions/Evolution:
My first version didn't have Tooth and "splashed" Red with a full
four Naturalize, Shock, Pyroclasm, and Fireball. Thsi became infamous
as my "Ravager Bane" deck even though I didn't build it with that
intent. It was also jokingly called the "Does Everything" deck and the
"What the !@#$?" deck. No Plains back then.
I used the Lattice to get the Abunas out. Traproot's job was handled
by Vine Trellis back then. I like the extra mana, but Traproot can
drop on turn one and block fliers. I'm thinking of SB'ing the
Traproots and adding the Trelli back to gain speed from turn three
on, but the fliers have been a problem. The other main loss from
the old version is Tower of Fortunes, IIRC. I liked getting the
extra draws, but it's expensive and comes late game. It may go back
in, card advantage is a problem here.
I differ from Pils' version as I don't have the Solemn Simulcrum.
I prefer Naturalize to Oxidize, even though it costs more, as it
takes out enchantments too and our meta-game seems artifact light
except for Ravager decks. Earlier, not enough artifact destruction
was a problem but as Kamigawa becomes more popular it is less so. If
it reverse while Mirrodin is still legal, I may hav eto make room
for Oxidize and/or Wear Away.
Other differences are from the side board. Tel-Jihad Justice
doesn't strike me as better than the above Artifact killers.
Creeping Mold is only worth it if I want LD which hasn't been
too nescessary except against Cloudposts and REap and Sow handles
them usually. Wayfarer's Bauble just seems redundant, and I
generally dislike "one use" permanents. Triskelion and Viridian
Shaman don't impress me and I only have Triskelion anyway. But
see below.
Differences from my friends version consist mainly of dropping
out Triskelion and Mephidross Vampire. Problem being that I misread
the Vampire. Reading it correctly it looks like a solid combo, though
I don't want to splash a third color, so I'd be stuck with using
Tooth to get the Vampires out.
Losses:
My losses with this deck have been to Land Destruction (Including
the incidental version from the Reap and Sows of Tooth decks!),
Unblockables, Big Fliers, Ravager, and Arc Slogger. LD was a danger to
an early version, this version should handle that. Ravager was a
fluke for the earlier version. This version hasn't faced it and
isn't as well equipped for it. I included the Traproots to stall
or hold off fliers and the Sliths are there so I can get a
cheap (relatively) flier myself that can become a real threat also.
But I have no idea how to stop unblockable Ninjas and Arc Slogger
with the exception of getting the Angel or the Lattice out and by
then it's often too late.
Wins:
Deck wins by Colossus Beatdown, Rude Awakening, defensive lock, and
if the lock succeeds, Doorway. Given time to build the lock,
Doorways works suprisingly often. Old version could win with burn
but that was never its intent and I don't think I can find the space
for Red here.
So, any advise on what to add, what to drop, how to improve this?
OK, this runs well against theme and fun decks, but doesn't seem to
fare as well as expected in tournaments.
It started off as a Cloudpost deck before I got my Tooth and Nails.
I also incorporated as much of Florian Pils Remini deck as I
felt comfortable with. Then a friend traded me his T&N deck so I
could actually pull off the real thing. And finally added a splash
of Kamigawa.
List first then some comments:
4 x Cloudpost
16 x Forest
4 x Plains
1 x Birds of Paradise
2 x Eternal Witness
3 x Traproot Kami
2 x Bringer of the White Dawn
2 x Leonin Abunas
2 x Darksteel Colossus
4 x Duplicant
2 x Platinum Angel
2 x Naturalize
2 x Reap and Sow
2 x Rude Awakening
3 x Sylvan Scrying
3 x Tooth and Nail
1 x Ivory Mask
1 x Darksteel Forge
1 x Door to Nothingness
1 x Mindslaver
1 x Mycosynth Lattice
1 x Planar Portal
Sideboard:
1 x Traproot Kami
2 x Vine Trellis
1 x Darksteel Colossus
2 x Sundering Titan
1 x Naturalize
1 x Reap and Sow
1 x Rude Awakening
1 x Sacred Ground
1 x Crucible of Worlds
1 x Darksteel Forge
1 x Mindslaver
Comments;
Other Versions/Evolution:
My first version didn't have Tooth and "splashed" Red with a full
four Naturalize, Shock, Pyroclasm, and Fireball. Thsi became infamous
as my "Ravager Bane" deck even though I didn't build it with that
intent. It was also jokingly called the "Does Everything" deck and the
"What the !@#$?" deck. No Plains back then.
I used the Lattice to get the Abunas out. Traproot's job was handled
by Vine Trellis back then. I like the extra mana, but Traproot can
drop on turn one and block fliers. I'm thinking of SB'ing the
Traproots and adding the Trelli back to gain speed from turn three
on, but the fliers have been a problem. The other main loss from
the old version is Tower of Fortunes, IIRC. I liked getting the
extra draws, but it's expensive and comes late game. It may go back
in, card advantage is a problem here.
I differ from Pils' version as I don't have the Solemn Simulcrum.
I prefer Naturalize to Oxidize, even though it costs more, as it
takes out enchantments too and our meta-game seems artifact light
except for Ravager decks. Earlier, not enough artifact destruction
was a problem but as Kamigawa becomes more popular it is less so. If
it reverse while Mirrodin is still legal, I may hav eto make room
for Oxidize and/or Wear Away.
Other differences are from the side board. Tel-Jihad Justice
doesn't strike me as better than the above Artifact killers.
Creeping Mold is only worth it if I want LD which hasn't been
too nescessary except against Cloudposts and REap and Sow handles
them usually. Wayfarer's Bauble just seems redundant, and I
generally dislike "one use" permanents. Triskelion and Viridian
Shaman don't impress me and I only have Triskelion anyway. But
see below.
Differences from my friends version consist mainly of dropping
out Triskelion and Mephidross Vampire. Problem being that I misread
the Vampire. Reading it correctly it looks like a solid combo, though
I don't want to splash a third color, so I'd be stuck with using
Tooth to get the Vampires out.
Losses:
My losses with this deck have been to Land Destruction (Including
the incidental version from the Reap and Sows of Tooth decks!),
Unblockables, Big Fliers, Ravager, and Arc Slogger. LD was a danger to
an early version, this version should handle that. Ravager was a
fluke for the earlier version. This version hasn't faced it and
isn't as well equipped for it. I included the Traproots to stall
or hold off fliers and the Sliths are there so I can get a
cheap (relatively) flier myself that can become a real threat also.
But I have no idea how to stop unblockable Ninjas and Arc Slogger
with the exception of getting the Angel or the Lattice out and by
then it's often too late.
Wins:
Deck wins by Colossus Beatdown, Rude Awakening, defensive lock, and
if the lock succeeds, Doorway. Given time to build the lock,
Doorways works suprisingly often. Old version could win with burn
but that was never its intent and I don't think I can find the space
for Red here.
So, any advise on what to add, what to drop, how to improve this?