[SOLVED] Help with new build $2000 CAD

[avidity]

Hi,

Unfortunately due to flooding in my apartment, my computer has bit the dust. I am looking at building a new one as soon as possible. I was bored so I put together a build, but I do not really know what's the best. I am thinking a budget of $2000 CAD and maybe a little more or less if desired.

Any help is appreciated.

Here are the parts I picked. I am not sure if I should go with Ryzen over Intel. The build is for gaming. It would be nice to have WiFi as an option, but I guess I could get a separate card. I also like either the NZXT H700i or the be quiet! Silent Base 601, but I am open to suggestions. It would also be cool to have a colour theme for the overall build. Thank you.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($496.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($109.25 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($244.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($139.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($124.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($599.88 @ Canada Computers)
Case: NZXT H700i ATX Mid Tower Case ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 11 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($194.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $2240.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-08 00:26 EDT-0400

 

[zikmir]

That is not a bad build but i could suggest a few things you can change. Btw if it is strictly for gaming i7-9700k is totally fine and is a tiny bit faster than its rival Ryzen 3700x but negligible amount, though ryzen is cheaper with hyper threading. That feature i just mentioned, will come in handy later for even games as time goes by and also for various other task. My personal opinion would be to go for ryzen but since you picked intel lets stick with it and improve it.

- Your ram can be much better! (you picked 3200mhz @ 16-18-18-38 (known as CAS 16) which is quite a bad timing. I would suggest you can try getting one that is 3200mhz @ 14-14-14-34 (CAS 14) or even the CAS 15 but please don't buy the CAS 16, it can easily impact your fps by any where from 1%to 7% depending the type of game. CAS 14 is the best maybe few more bucks.

- Your PSU is way out of wack in terms of price and power usage. You barely need 500 W. You can easily determine that via https://seasonic.com/wattage-calculator# Using your spec i got 415 W. So if you wana play like super duper ultra mega safe get a 600 W Silver certified or Gold.
https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G3-0650-Y1/dp/B01LYGFRL6

This is 650W and fully modular wth eco mode and 7 year warranty. (Gold certified too). That saves you easy $60. Again you can go for 1000 W but you are totally wasting money.

- GPU, Pick the super edition which has replaced the 2070. Check around you should be able to find the RTX 2070 Super for same price directly from Nvidia of memoryexpress or some place. The Super version is quite an improvement, it is close to RTX 2080, so why not get that for the same price.

- Cooler, That is a FREAKING HUGE cooler and may interfere with your ram space, so make sure you check the ram's height and see if the cooler isn't going to be touching it or totally blocking it. That is why many go for AIO like H80i and stuff. I am not saying thats a bad cooler but check the specs if it will fit.


When it comes to your case, <removed> im the worse guy in aesthetics lol... pick one that has good airflow and space for your drives e.t.c

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[avidity]

Thanks for the reply zikmir. I will make those adjustments!

 

[DMAN999]

I agree with the above post.
If you want an Intel based system you did fairly well.
But as stated above you need to choose a quality 650W (or 750W) PSU. Do not skimp on the PSU, it is the foundation for your entire build.
I also agree that you need to change your RAM choice if you go with an Intel build. 3200 MHz RAM is probably wasted on the Intel CPU, as far as I know 2666 MHz is fastest RAM supported by the 9700k.

My advice is to check the price of a Ryzen 3700x or a 3900x build vs your Intel build.
You may find that you can get a Ryzen build for less that performs as well or even better for less money.

As long as you are willing to wait until tomorrow, I will be happy to post an alternative Intel and Ryzen build for you to consider.

 

[avidity]

Hi DMAN999,

I would definitely appreciate any alternative builds. I’d especially be interested in seeing a Ryzen build. Thank you!

 

[zikmir]

I agree with the above post.
If you want an Intel based system you did fairly well.
But as stated above you need to choose a quality 650W (or 750W) PSU. Do not skimp on the PSU, it is the foundation for your entire build.
I also agree that you need to change your RAM choice if you go with an Intel build. 3200 MHz RAM is probably wasted on the Intel CPU, as far as I know 2666 MHz is fastest RAM supported by the 9700k.

My advice is to check the price of a Ryzen 3700x or a 3900x build vs your Intel build.
You may find that you can get a Ryzen build for less that performs as well or even better for less money.

As long as you are willing to wait until tomorrow, I will be happy to post an alternative Intel and Ryzen build for you to consider.

I also agree with what you said about the ram speed, i did over look that 2666+ would have almost negligible gaming performance, maybe a few frames or so. My rule of thumb is always go for the better timing than a bigger number. The formula is pretty simple:

Divide ram speed by 2, then divide the CAS by it and times 1000 will give nano seconds.

3200mhz running at 14 CAS gives:
(3200/2)= 1600
14/1600=0.00875
0.00875 *10 = 8.75 nanoseconds

For Intel you can go for slower MHz but tighter timings to gain good results. Find the tightest timing for 2666 and you are good.

For Ryzen build simple go for Ryzen 7 3700x with any mobo that fits your budget. A good choice is AORUS Elite(no wifi) or Asus AM4 TUF x570. Both are $200 and have mid tear power delivery system and even good for OC, so you cannot go wrong with them. The TUF has WiFi too.

The biggest issue with Ryzen is Ram and its timing cause of the infinity fabric speed. In simple terms just get 3600Mhz at CAS 16. One that looks good and is in price range is:
https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232437

OR if u want to get a boner with RGB get the:
https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232809

You can pick any brand, just make sure its 3600Mhz and CAS 16 or lower. This will rock your CPU since it can run 1:1 ratio with infinity fabric. To summarize, This is your build:

CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x
RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ Series 3600 CAS 15
MOBO Asus AM4 TUF x570(Wifi)
PSU: SuperNova 650 Gold
GPU: RTX 2070 Super
Case: What ever lol

 

[avidity]

What cpu cooler would you recommend with the 3700x?

 

[g-unit1111]

What cpu cooler would you recommend with the 3700x?

You could easily use the stock cooler since AMD's stock cooler is fairly capable. If you want a better suggestion something like the Noctua U12-S , Deepcool Gammax, or the BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro would be solid choices. On your budget you could also get an AIO and go for something like a Corsair H115i or a NZXT Kraken X62.

This is what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($447.75 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($193.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard ($224.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($137.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($124.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Black Video Card ($678.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: NZXT H500i ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($141.90 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2189.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-09 12:45 EDT-0400