Mohammed Kayed :
I need help for pc build (1000$ - 2000$) for engineering design software especially revit
and one more thing for design which gpu is better rx 480 or gtx 1060
Thanks all
Mohammed Kayed,
Here are four options:
OPTION 1: Calculation / analysis / simulation / rendering priority > $2,000
Workstation > 2D-3D CAD / Graphic Design / Simulation / Development / Scientific / ALT > Rendering/ Video Editing > $2,000
Processor: Intel Xeon E5-2620 v3 Haswell 6-core @ 2.4 /3.2 GHz 6 x 256KB L2 Cache 15MB L3 Cache LGA 2011-3 85W BX80644E52620V3 Server Processor > $439.99
E5-2620 v3 Specification
Motherboard: SUPERMICRO MBD-X10DAL-I-O ATX Server Motherboard Dual LGA 2011-3 Intel C612 > $299.99
Memory: 32GB (4X 8GB) SAMSUNG 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Server Memory Model M393A1G40DB0-CPB] > $215.96 (
$53.99 each)
Graphics: Visualization / Scientific: PNY Quadro M2000 VCQM2000-PB 4GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 Workstation Video Card > $430.00
Graphics ALT: Rendering / Video Editing: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 DirectX 12 GTX 1070 GAMING 8G 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ATX Video Card > $439.99
Storage 1: SAMSUNG 950 PRO M.2 512GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V5P512BW > $317.99
Storage 2: http:// WD Black 2TB Performance Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD2003FZEX > $122.99
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 Black Silent EATX Full Tower Computer Case > $139.99
Power Supply: CORSAIR RMx Series RM850X 850W 80 PLUS GOLD Haswell Ready Full Modular ATX12V & EPS12V SLI and Crossfire Ready Power Supply> $109.99
Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S 120x120x25 ( NF-F12 PWM) SSO2-Bearing CPU Cooler > $61.95
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TOTAL = $1,987.27 > 2D-3D CAD / Graphic Design / Simulation / Development / Scientific
TOTAL = $1,997.26 > Rendering /Video Editing
Note: Dual CPU motherboard allows future addition of 2nd processor
Option 2: Workstation: 2D CAD / 3D CAD modeling / Graphic Design / Simulation / Animation Priority > $2,000
Processor: Intel CPU BX80660E51650V4 Xeon Processor E5-1650v4 15M Cache 3.6 / 4.0GHz FC-LGA14A > $665
E5-1650v4 Specification
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard > $201
Memory: 16GB (2X Kingston Value 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Server Memory Model KVR24R17S4/8 > $100 ($50 each)
Graphics: PNY Quadro M2000 VCQM2000-PB 4GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 Workstation Video Card > $430
Storage 1: SAMSUNG 950 PRO M.2 256GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V5P256BW > $224.
Storage 2: WD Black 1TB Performance Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD1003FZEX > $70.
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 Titanium Silent EATX Full Tower Computer Case > $130
Power Supply: CORSAIR RMx Series RM850X 850W 80 PLUS GOLD Haswell Ready Full Modular ATX12V & EPS12V SLI and Crossfire Ready Power Supply > $110
Cooling: Noctua NH-U12S 120x120x25 ( NF-F12 PWM) SSO2-Bearing ( Self-stabilizing oil-pressure bearing ) CPU Cooler > $62
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TOTAL = $1,992
Option 3: 2D-3D CAD / Graphic Design / Development > $1,500
The No Forum Handle in the Name and Avoiding Odd Capitalizations & Symbols Workstation
Processor: Intel Xeon E3-1275 v5 SkyLake 3.6 / 4.0 GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1151 80W BX80662E31275V5 Server Processor > $369
Motherboard: SUPERMICRO MBD-X11SAT-O ATX Server Motherboard LGA 1151 Intel C236 > $290
Memory: 32GB Kingston ValueRAM 4X 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Server Memory Model KVR21E15D8/8HA > $168 ($42 each)
Graphics: PNY Quadro K1200 VCQK1200DP-PB 4GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 ATX or SFF Workstation Video Card for DisplayPort > $270
Graphics ALT: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 DirectX 12 GTX 1060 ARMOR 6G OC 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready ATX Video Card > $270
Storage 1: SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-75E250B/AM > $91
Storage 2: WD Black 1TB Performance Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD1003FZEX > $70
Case: Cooler Master Silencio 652S - Silent Mid Tower Computer Case with Sound Dampening Panels, Three Silencio FP 120 Fans, and Multiple Removable Air Filters > $110
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply > $75
Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X – CPU Cooler with dual 120mm PWM Fan > $45
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TOTAL = $1,487
Option 4: Upgrade used workstation > Price varies
My current project is to replace a Dell Precision T5500 (2X Xeon X5680 (6-core @ 3.33/3.6GHz) / 48GB / Samsung 840 + WD RE4 1TB).
Purchased for $270 on Ebahhh:
HP z620 (
Original) Xeon E5-1620 4-core @ 3.6 /3.8GHz) / 8GB (1X 8GB DDR3-1333) / AMD Firepro V5900 (2GB) / Seagate barracuda 750GB + Samsung 500Gb + WD 500GB
[ Passmark System Rating= 2408 / CPU= 8361 / 2D= 846 / 3D = 1613 / Mem =1584 / Disk = 574 ] 7.13.16
Purchased:
2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 /3.8Ghz) $375 ( Passmark CPU mark of 21826 and 1888 single-threaded)
z620 2nd CPU riser: $150
32 GB DDR3-1600 ECC: $165
Set replacement case plastic parts: $72
This system will then have the Quadro K2200 4GB from the T5500 and Intel 730 480GB, and WD Black 1TB from the HP z420 listed below.
So far, with one E5-2690 and the 32GB of RAM installed:
HP z620 (
Rev 1) Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 /3.8GHz) / 40GB (4X 8GB +4X 2GB DDR3-1600) / AMD Firepro V5900 (2GB) / Seagate Barracuda 750GB + Samsung 500Gb + WD 500GB / 800W > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit >
[ Passmark System Rating= 2304 / CPU=
14532 / 2D= 723 / 3D = 1665/ Mem =2709 / Disk = 538 ] 7.20.16
The system rating is poor due to the modest performance of the Firepro V5900 and the terrible performance of the 2010 Seagate Barracuda that arrived in the system, but the 14532 CPU mark and healthy memory score tells an encouraging story. compare the $ per CPU point performance of the 8-core E5-2690 at $175 to the 6-core E5-1650 v4 costing
The total cash outlay so far is about $1,050. As the E5-1620 and the V5900 included are worth about $70-80 each, the net cost is about $900. The value of the used parts is about $500-$600 or so, so the total cost will be about $1,400-$1,500. Performance should be very good. As I hope to sell the Precision T5500 for $1,100-!,200, the net upgrade cost is about $300-$400.
Option 5: Upgrade used workstation: price varies
Within Option 4 is also the potential to have a quite capable system at closer to the low target budget:
HP Z420 Workstation 2.90GHz 8 Core E5-2690 16GB RAM 2TB HDD No OS > sold for $575
To this add :
+16GB RAM: about $80
Quadro M2000 94GB): $430
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB: $90
TOTAL = about $1,200
Conclusions:
Option 1: Overall, as Revit is both calculation-intensive-3D CAD, BIM database, structural analysis, and with rendering this would be my first choice This starts with a single processor and then can add a second and with a very high RAM capacity and memory bandwidth,given the expandability, this would be my first choice. If the budget can be stretched another $300-$500, consider an 8-core CPU or going up one step in CPU clock speed which would improve the single-threaded performance for modeling.
Option 2: If the priority and majority of time is on fast 3D modeling of complex buildings, this has good possibilities. The E5-2620 v3 has a Passmark single-threaded rating of 1692- not too bad, while the E5-1650 v4 rating is 2025- in the top tier. A single E5-2620 v3 has a CPU mark of and a dual CPU of 15500. A single E5-1650 v4 has a Passmark average CPU score of 13509, which is a high percentage of the dual E5-2620 v3. The balance of CPU speed- up to 4.0GHz, 32GB RAM, fast drives
Option 3: It's possible, if the projects are not elaborate to use a Xeon E3 system, but the maximum of 32GB of RAM and limitation to 4 cores makes the savings of $500 in my view makes this the last option.
Option 4: So, While there are a lot variables, and patience shopping and luck is required, has by far the best cost /performance potential- for $1,500, the z620 will have two CPU's that alone together cost $4,100 new. Compared with building a new system, the resale value will also be much higher proportionally as the parts are already depreciated.
Option 5: If the budget is restricted, expansion does not require a second CPU, there is access to Ebay US, and time to wait for a good price on the basic system, then Option 5 is the best path.
Finally:
In balance, for a new system Option 2 with the Quadro M2000 would be my recommendation, and if the conditions are correct, then Option 4..
Cheers,
BambiBoom
Modeling:
1. HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)>
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]
Rendering:
2. Dell Precision T5500 (2011) (Revised) > 2X Xeon X5680 (6-core @ 3.33 / 3.6GHz), 48GB DDR3 1333 ECC Reg. > Quadro K2200 (4GB ) > PERC H310 / Samsung 840 250GB / WD RE4 Enterprise 1TB > M-Audio 192 sound card > Logitech z313 > 875W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64> HP 2711x (27", 1920 X 1080)
[ Passmark system rating = 3844 > CPU = 15047 / 2D= 662 / 3D= 3550 / Mem= 1785 / Disk= 2649] (12.30.15)
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