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Hello I am wanting to build a PC and was wondering if this was a good build and can run games like Crysis 3 on maximum settings. I also have little knowledge and experience so this probably isn't a good build.
On pc part picker I have this list.

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX2 30g Thermal Paste ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.18 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($456.98 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DSX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($55.38 @ Newegg)
Wired Network Adapter: Intel EXPI9404PTL 10/100/1000 Mbps PCI-Express x4 Network Adapter ($172.88 @ Compuvest)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC66 802.11b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($96.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.00 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-S2S-124K-GP 44.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($12.22 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($55.43 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 3-Pack (OEM) (64-bit) ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($119.49 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($69.99 @ Best Buy)
Speakers: Logitech X-140 4W 2ch Speakers ($25.99 @ Expansys US)
Total: $2462.43
 
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Crysis 3, probably 4 and maybe 5 would be my guess.
 
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I find that highly unlikely, given that the 680 can't even hit 60 FPS in Crysis 3: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-6.html
That said, you definitely CAN construct a system capable of maxing Crysis 3 on that budget, this just is not it.
 
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:) Which is why I don't usually comment on gaming build threads like this. I'm not near as familiar with graphics cards as I am the other components.
 
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There's a lot of issues with this build.

1)You don't need thermal paste because the 212 Evo comes with some
2) You do not need an i7 processor for games. i5 is worth the value unless you get an amazing deal on an i7 from like Microcenter
3) If you're not planning on overclock, get a H77 motherboard and i5-3470
4) Your motherboard is for SLI. If you're not planning on using more than one video card, get an ASRock Z77 Pro3
5) 16GBs of RAM isn't needed unless doing Photoshop, video editing, etc. For gaming, 8GBs is plenty
6) You do not need a network card since motherboards already have an ethernet port
7) Also don't need a sound card since most motherboards have decent sound already unless you need surround or something
8) Your Wireless network card is way too much. ASUS has some good ones for $25 that work great (from personal experience)
9) For a single GPU build, 850W PSU is a bit overkill. If you plan on doing SLI later, then it's okay. If not, the highest I'd go is 550W for no overclock and 650W for overclocking.
10) You also don't need a 3-user licenses for Windows. Get a single OEM key for $90-100
 
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Understandably, they just keep making more of the darn things! Hard to keep track of. For what it's worth, given the price tag, I completely understand assuming that it would max Crysis.
 
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I am not planning on overclocking.
I'm not sure waht SLI/Crosfire is or what a Mircrocenter is.
My budget is 2500 to 3000
 
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I changed the build from what you all said is this better?


CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.18 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($456.98 @ Amazon)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DSX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($19.29 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.00 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-S2S-124K-GP 44.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($12.22 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($55.43 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Full (32/64-bit) ($264.28 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($119.49 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($69.99 @ Best Buy)
Speakers: Logitech X-140 4W 2ch Speakers ($25.99 @ Expansys US)
Total: $2045.02
 
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An SLI or a CrossFire is using multiple graphics cards (if nVidia, it's an SLI, if AMD, it's a CrossFire) together for increased performance.
Microcenter is a rather awesome store with great deals, particularly one CPUs and motherboards. Sadly, they do not, to my knowledge, ship, so you have to live close enough to one to physically purchase things there.
Wow. We can DEFINITELY make something that can handle Crysis 3 with that.
 
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Unless you plan on doing video editing, I would drop the 3770k for a 3570k. You save money and lose, fuctionally, nothing.
Same with the RAM, 16 GB isn't terribly useful, although at your budget I could understand keeping it.
On the flip-side, you definitely need a better motherboard. For a build of this budget, I would considered an ASRock Extreme6 to be the least you would get, and you might even consider an ASUS Sabertooth.
I'm not sure if you need a sound card for some reason, but if you don't, consider dropping it. You'll have built-in sound processing, and most non-audiophiles can't tell the difference.
For the video card, the 680 isn't a very efficient card for its price. I would tend to advise instead going with either a pair of 670 FTWs or a pair or 7970 Ghz. Editions. If you're averse to the idea of a multiple card setup, the GTX 690 and Radeon 7990 are dual-GPU graphics cards which function almost as well as an SLI of 680s and a CrossFire of 7970s, respectively. If you aren't willing to go dual-GPU but must have maximum graphical performance, a GTX Titan may be your only recourse, though it's not very efficient.
 
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how is this? I am not wanting duel graphics cards and trying to keep the price way under budget but willing if needed to spend more.

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($154.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Kingston Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.18 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($456.98 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($19.29 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.00 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-S2S-124K-GP 44.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($8.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($55.43 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Full (32/64-bit) ($269.95 @ Adorama)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($161.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($119.49 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($69.99 @ Best Buy)
Speakers: Logitech X-140 4W 2ch Speakers ($28.70 @ NCIX US)
Total: $2073.92
 
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Do you need the 3770k for something specific, such as video editing? If not, you could save $100 right there by downgrading to an (equal in gaming) i5 3570k.
For a build in this price range, I would advise going with a more powerful cooler. Something along the lines of a Noctua DH14 for air cooling or a NZXT Kraken x60 for liquid cooling.
Same as with the 3770k, do you have a use for 16 GB of RAM? If not, it's dead weight that's costing you money, although not quite as much as the CPU.
If you want to use a GTX 680, it's your call. I would tend to go with a Sapphire 7970 Vapor-X instead, but it's your call. I can't be of much help as to brands on the 680, however, as I nigh-always use AMD cards.
While Corsair is an absolutely fine brand, I tend to go with SeaSonic PSUs for higher-end systems, though that is once again personal preference.
For monitors, have you considered the ASUS VG248QE? It has 144hz refresh rate and a 1ms response time for about $100 more than your present monitor.
Finally, would you like me to offer a full alternate build, or would you rather that I continue simply offering comments on your builds?
 
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I want to stay around 2000 to 2500 if I have to, and have the Corsair Vengeance case.
I am new to this and obviously not choosing the right parts for this build could you tell me a good build capable for gaming with max settings and video editing?
 
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Capable of playing anything on max settings, or anything short of Crysis? Because, to be honest, from what I've seen the only way to max that is to use a rig that is significantly more powerful than what you'd need for damn near any other game.

Edit: Do you have any problems with closed-loop liquid coolers?
Edit 2: Is there a specific reason you want to stick with the Vengeance, or do you just like the look? (Not that I take issue with that)
 
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Capable of playing crysis 3 max setting with a budget of 2000 to 3000 ( want to stay near 2000-2500 if possible)
I would not like to have liquid cooling and I like the case for its simple look but I could change it if its nothing flashy.
 
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If you're opposed to liquid cooling, the Silverstone Fortress 02 might be for you. It was what I had planned to use in my next build until I found out that the radiator on my liquid cooling system would conflict with the fan structure. I'll work on a build.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($154.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.67 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($96.87 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($453.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($453.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Silverstone FT02S-USB3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case ($229.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($266.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Optical Mouse ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $2736.31
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-02 13:43 EDT-0400)
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($220.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Video Card ($1025.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($161.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($144.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $2568.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-02 13:55 EDT-0400)
 
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If he's doing video editing, he actually does need the 3770k, or at least would gain some reasonable benefit from it.

Edit: Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that RAM incompatible with that cooler, due to the large heat spreaders?
 
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Strictly, his given budget was $2000-3000 with a preference towards the 2,500 end, but I see where you're coming from. However, I would tend to cut down on peripherals before going after CPU. You could put in a reasonable keyboard like the Sidewinder and save enough for the i7.
 
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Oh definitely, there are plenty of ways to make it all fit better, but I just stuck with his original monitor/case/peripherals since those things are based more on personal preference. I think though with a budget like this, he should be looking at SLI 670s, Xfire 7970s, or a Titan.
 
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Ah. I understand your reasoning now. I was wondering why on earth you would invest so much in the peripherals while cutting systems. I was trying to be price efficient with the peripherals I selected without sacrificing quality, but ultimately I suppose it has to come down to OP's taste.
 
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