Question Help with PC building.

[GuacMan]

Hi, I’m new to PC building. I’m want to get a gaming PC because I’ve heard they are better than console. I want a PC that can run games at 1440p and 144 Hz. I don’t want to buy a pre-built one because I’ve heard that they don’t have the best components. I’m also going to be doing a bit of school work on this. So if anyone can help me in this, it’ll be appreciated.

 

[Hellfire13]

Budget and location???

 

[GuacMan]

Budget and location???

Maybe 1000 dollars. Possibly 1300.

America.

 

[Hellfire13]

Something like this should be good...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | $369.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML120L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $57.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $129.99 @ Amazon
Memory | GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A1000 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $82.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card | $679.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case | $51.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $63.97 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1571.70
| Mail-in rebates | -$65.00
| Total | $1506.70
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-05 15:11 EDT-0400 |

 

[Finstar]

A value build that's not pushing the budget.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($264.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $1142.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-05 15:14 EDT-0400

 

[GuacMan]

Something like this should be good...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | $369.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML120L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $57.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $129.99 @ Amazon
Memory | GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A1000 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $82.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card | $679.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case | $51.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $63.97 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1571.70
| Mail-in rebates | -$65.00
| Total | $1506.70
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-05 15:11 EDT-0400 |

Are you sure about the memory? I saw somewhere that they’re not very good. I might be wrong though. Here’s the link, https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pH2rxr/geil-memory-gpr416gb3000c15adc

 

[AllanGH]

Start all of this off by keeping things in perspective....one bad comment does not mean that the recommendation is a bad one.

You asked for, and are receiving, advice from people with hands-on experience.

 

[Hellfire13]

Are you sure about the memory? I saw somewhere that they’re not very good. I might be wrong though. Here’s the link, https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pH2rxr/geil-memory-gpr416gb3000c15adc

There is no product line in this universe that does not have factory seconds or defective pieces. For every RAM kit, you will find some good reviews and some bad. But at the end of the day, a RAM kit is just that. If you dont like it, you can replace it with something similar.
The above build is just an idea of what kind of parts to look for. I have revised it with a kit with batter reviews. In case you are wondering about the price difference, the CPU just dropped 10 bucks...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | $359.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML120L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $59.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $129.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $74.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A1000 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $82.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card | $679.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case | $51.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $63.97 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1568.70
| Mail-in rebates | -$65.00
| Total | $1503.70
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-05 22:36 EDT-0400 |

 

[GuacMan]

There is no product line in this universe that does not have factory seconds or defective pieces. For every RAM kit, you will find some good reviews and some bad. But at the end of the day, a RAM kit is just that. If you dont like it, you can replace it with something similar.
The above build is just an idea of what kind of parts to look for. I have revised it with a kit with batter reviews. In case you are wondering about the price difference, the CPU just dropped 10 bucks...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | $359.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML120L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $59.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $129.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $74.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A1000 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $82.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card | $679.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case | $51.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $63.97 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1568.70
| Mail-in rebates | -$65.00
| Total | $1503.70
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-05 22:36 EDT-0400 |

Thanks, I’m really new to this whole thing so I’m probably wrong in most things. Lol

 

[GuacMan]

Start all of this off by keeping things in perspective....one bad comment does not mean that the recommendation is a bad one.

You asked for, and are receiving, advice from people with hands-on experience.

Yeah, I guess I’m being a little too picky. Lol

 

[GuacMan]

There is no product line in this universe that does not have factory seconds or defective pieces. For every RAM kit, you will find some good reviews and some bad. But at the end of the day, a RAM kit is just that. If you dont like it, you can replace it with something similar.
The above build is just an idea of what kind of parts to look for. I have revised it with a kit with batter reviews. In case you are wondering about the price difference, the CPU just dropped 10 bucks...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | $359.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML120L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $59.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $129.99 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $74.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A1000 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $82.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card | $679.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case | $51.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $63.97 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1568.70
| Mail-in rebates | -$65.00
| Total | $1503.70
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-05 22:36 EDT-0400 |

I have a question, I’ve heard that PCs need GPU’s as well as CPU’s. Are they both required or just one?

 

[DSzymborski]

I have a question, I’ve heard that PCs need GPU’s as well as CPU’s. Are they both required or just one?

You have to have both. Now, in some cases, you can use the integrated graphics that many CPUs have, but those tend to be very basic, even the better ones like the Ryzen 2400G. If you're building a $1000-$1300 gaming rig, you'll have a CPU (which you'll always need) and a dedicated GPU.

 

[Hellfire13]

I’m want to get a gaming PC because I’ve heard they are better than console. I want a PC that can run games at 1440p and 144 Hz.

For gaming you need both. And for those specifications, you definitely need both.

 

[GuacMan]

For gaming you need both. And for those specifications, you definitely need both.

Both of what?

 

[GuacMan]

You have to have both. Now, in some cases, you can use the integrated graphics that many CPUs have, but those tend to be very basic, even the better ones like the Ryzen 2400G. If you're building a $1000-$1300 gaming rig, you'll have a CPU (which you'll always need) and a dedicated GPU.

Thanks

 

[AllanGH]

Both of what?

CPU, or μP, is the Central Processing Unit (MicroProcessor)...the "brain" of the computer and, often, the largest single integrated circuit on the motherboard. If you don't have this, you don't have what we call a computer.

GPU is the Graphics Processing Unit, or video card, as you will hear it referred to as.
dGPU is a Dedicated Graphics Processing Unit, which is a separate card that is inserted into one of the Input / Output (I/O) expansion slots on the motherboard.
iGPU is the Integrated Graphics Processing Unit, which can be contained either in a discrete graphics processor chip soldered to the motherboard, integrated into the motherboard chipset, or included within the CPU; in which case the CPU is then called an APU instead of a CPU.

You need both a CPU and some sort of implementation of graphics processor (iGPU or dGPU....or the APU by itself) to make what we consider to be a useful desktop or portable computer.

 

[GuacMan]

CPU, or μP, is the Central Processing Unit (MicroProcessor)...the "brain" of the computer and, often, the largest single integrated circuit on the motherboard. If you don't have this, you don't have what we call a computer.

GPU is the Graphics Processing Unit, or video card, as you will hear it referred to as.
dGPU is a Dedicated Graphics Processing Unit, which is a separate card that is inserted into one of the Input / Output (I/O) expansion slots on the motherboard.
iGPU is the Integrated Graphics Processing Unit, which can be contained either in a discrete graphics processor chip soldered to the motherboard, integrated into the motherboard chipset, or included within the CPU; in which case the CPU is then called an APU instead of a CPU.

You need both a CPU and some sort of implementation of graphics processor (iGPU or dGPU....or the APU) to make what we consider to be a useful desktop or portable computer.

Ok, thanks.

 

[GuacMan]

Are there any bigger storages that you recommend?

 

[AllanGH]

You can substitute a Seagate 2TB HDD for the NVMe drive.

 

[Hellfire13]

Are there any bigger storages that you recommend?

I case you are not overclocking, this should give you near similar performance...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor | $294.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard | Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $69.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory | $70.98 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A1000 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $82.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card | $679.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case | $66.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $63.97 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1429.69
| Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
| Total | $1389.69
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 09:12 EDT-0400 |

You can add more storage if you want. You can look into Ryzen too. Its pretty close to the Intel build and value for money...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | $174.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard | Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $66.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $74.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A1000 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $82.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card | $679.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case | $66.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $63.97 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1325.60
| Mail-in rebates | -$55.00
| Total | $1270.60
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 09:15 EDT-0400 |

 

[GuacMan]

I case you are not overclocking, this should give you near similar performance...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor | $294.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard | Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $69.99 @ Amazon
Memory | Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory | $70.98 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A1000 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $82.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card | $679.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case | $66.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $63.97 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1429.69
| Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
| Total | $1389.69
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 09:12 EDT-0400 |

You can add more storage if you want. You can look into Ryzen too. Its pretty close to the Intel build and value for money...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | $174.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard | Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $66.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $74.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A1000 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $82.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card | $679.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case | $66.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply | Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $63.97 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1325.60
| Mail-in rebates | -$55.00
| Total | $1270.60
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 09:15 EDT-0400 |

What does overclocking mean?

 

[Hellfire13]

"Overclocking is the action of increasing a component’s clock rate, running it at a higher speed than it was designed to run. This is usually applies to the CPU or GPU, but other components can also be overclocked.
Increasing a component’s clock rate causes it to perform more operations per second, but it also produces additional heat. Overclocking can help squeeze more performance out of your components, but they’ll often need additional cooling and care."

I was referring to the CPU in this case...
https://www.howtogeek.com/165064/wh...o-understanding-how-geeks-speed-up-their-pcs/