Help with Power Supply Capacity

[Osomara]

Ok so I have gone through restores, wiped and rewiped my computer and done every software troubleshooting option, taken apart, cleaned and put the hardware of my computer and nothing will fix this problem.

The computer seem to lose power constantly. It happens more often the more I plug in to it, and most of the time I can't get it to boot, because it will lose power during the boot sequence. As an ameteur computer builder I can only be SO sure, but the conclusion that I have drawn is that my power supply simply can't keep up with the demand that I call for. It was fine until I installed an AMD black edition 8 core processor that uses way more power than the old one.

I have 8 usb 2.0 slots, 2 usb 3.0 slots, two visual ports, an ethernet port, three diferent audio ports, and on top of it all several usb splitters. In a perfect world I would use ALL of it . So here are the questions, "If I buy a high output power supply do I run the risk of damaging my components?" and "What power supply does this community recommend for heavy computer use?" and "Can I enable some sort of service or install a program to help me keep real time track of my electricity usage and send me alerts when I start to reach my PSU's limit?" and finally "Is there a power supply with a back up battery?"

Any help is always appreciated

P.S. This is a tower computer

 

[plaintuts]

What's your system specs

 

[elbert]

If this 8 core is installed in a 970 could be differant kind of power problem. All 970's cant handle the 125w 8 cores. As for the PSU I cant tell you anything without the system specs.
Now on the back up batery no there is no powersuppy with a battery but you can buy and APC to ensure the power going into your psu is clean and stable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101339

 

[Osomara]

Running windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 16 gig ram, AMD fx 8350 8 core processor, amd radeon hd 5450. I can't figure out what my psu is

 

[Rogue Leader]

If this 8 core is installed in a 970 could be differant kind of power problem. All 970's cant handle the 125w 8 cores. As for the PSU I cant tell you anything without the system specs.
Now on the back up batery no there is no powersuppy with a battery but you can buy and APC to ensure the power going into your psu is clean and stable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101339

Thats not true at all. There are a number of 970 Boards with 6+2 and 8+2 power phases that can handle 125w CPUs. There are some that can't and I agree that may be (or probably is) the issue. But we need to know his exact board to be sure.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Running windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 16 gig ram, AMD fx 8350 8 core processor, amd radeon hd 5450. I can't figure out what my psu is

We need the exact brand and model of both your Motherboard and PSU. For the PSU it should be printed on the side. Take am picture and post it worst case scenario.

 

[plaintuts]

Well I think elbert is correct,
Without a 990fx Mobo all you get is vrm madness

 

[Osomara]

the psu says "LEPA MTX F1" the board is an MSI 760GMA-P34 FX

 

[Rogue Leader]

Well I think elbert is correct,
Without a 990fx Mobo all you get is vrm madness

Not at all. there are MULTIPLE 970 boards with large enough power phases for a 125w CPU. Avoid money wasting recommendations like this without doing some research.

 

[Osomara]

LEPA MX F1 N350-SB Power Supply - 350W its probably this. Got it dirt cheap at fry's electronics

 

[Rogue Leader]

the psu says "LEPA MTX F1" the board is an MSI 760GMA-P34 FX

Ok 2 problems.

1 That PSU is junk

2 That motherboard does not have the VRM capacity to support a 125w CPU

Without replacing the motherboard and PSU you will never have a properly functioning system.

Examples: The Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3, ASUS M5A97 EVO PRO, MSI 970 Gaming

Those are about as cheap as you can go for that CPU.

 

[bignastyid]

Well I think elbert is correct,
Without a 990fx Mobo all you get is vrm madness

Well he his wrong. There are a few 970 boards that have no problems with a 125w FX cpus and even have strong enough VRMs to handle overclocking. There are even a couple 970 boards that support the 220w 9xxx series.

 

[plaintuts]

So, do any of those 970 motherboards with 6+2 or 8+2 have adequate vrm heatsinks to prevent the cpu from throttling

 

[Rogue Leader]

So, do any of those 970 motherboards with 6+2 or 8+2 have adequate vrm heatsinks to prevent the cpu from throttling

Yes they all do. The main throttling issue is not heatsinks but the fact that most boards that have this issue are 4+1. Even worse someone puts a tower cooler on them and theres no cooling at all.

 

[CTurbo]

A 125w FX + a MSI 760GMA-P34 FX is a recipe for disaster. You're looking at 1.4ghz under loads with that setup.


And as mentioned above, there are several VERY good 970 boards that can easily handle a 125w FX.

 

[plaintuts]

Anyway, my question was mostly out of curiosity. Tested my 8350 on 3 mobos back then with a 970, a gigabyte 990fx and a Sabertooth

And ofcourse tower cooler was the norm back in 2013

 

[Rogue Leader]

As for power supply the Corsair CX550M is a good value buy. It will power your system (assuming you get that new motherboard) well now, and if you decide to add a good GPU for gaming it will power that well too.

 

[elbert]

If this 8 core is installed in a 970 could be differant kind of power problem. All 970's cant handle the 125w 8 cores. As for the PSU I cant tell you anything without the system specs.
Now on the back up batery no there is no powersuppy with a battery but you can buy and APC to ensure the power going into your psu is clean and stable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101339

Thats not true at all. There are a number of 970 Boards with 6+2 and 8+2 power phases that can handle 125w CPUs. There are some that can't and I agree that may be (or probably is) the issue. But we need to know his exact board to be sure.

Actuall that is true even if only one 970 cant handle the 125w cpu. My Asrock 970 extreme 3 had the 125w removed. Maybe you didn't understand the meaning of the statement. I should have worded it"not all 970's can handle the 125w."

 

[Rogue Leader]

If this 8 core is installed in a 970 could be differant kind of power problem. All 970's cant handle the 125w 8 cores. As for the PSU I cant tell you anything without the system specs.
Now on the back up batery no there is no powersuppy with a battery but you can buy and APC to ensure the power going into your psu is clean and stable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101339

Thats not true at all. There are a number of 970 Boards with 6+2 and 8+2 power phases that can handle 125w CPUs. There are some that can't and I agree that may be (or probably is) the issue. But we need to know his exact board to be sure.

Actuall that is true even if only one 970 cant handle the 125w cpu. My Asrock 970 extreme 3 had the 125w removed. Maybe you didn't understand the meaning of the statement. I should have worded it"not all 970's can handle the 125w."

But no, its not true because you said "all", I clearly understood it, you just wrote incorrect information. Many 970's do have 4+1 VRMs which will not handle a 125w. But not "all", the 3 boards I posted for example. In his case he has a 760G which there are none that have more than 4+1 VRMs they completely can't handle it.

 

[elbert]

LEPA MX F1 N350-SB Power Supply - 350W its probably this. Got it dirt cheap at fry's electronics

Be sure to get a good 970 as mine cant handle the 125w 8 cores. Check the cpu support list before buying.

 

[elbert]

If this 8 core is installed in a 970 could be differant kind of power problem. All 970's cant handle the 125w 8 cores. As for the PSU I cant tell you anything without the system specs.
Now on the back up batery no there is no powersuppy with a battery but you can buy and APC to ensure the power going into your psu is clean and stable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101339

Thats not true at all. There are a number of 970 Boards with 6+2 and 8+2 power phases that can handle 125w CPUs. There are some that can't and I agree that may be (or probably is) the issue. But we need to know his exact board to be sure.

Actuall that is true even if only one 970 cant handle the 125w cpu. My Asrock 970 extreme 3 had the 125w removed. Maybe you didn't understand the meaning of the statement. I should have worded it"not all 970's can handle the 125w."

But no, its not true because you said "all", I clearly understood it, you just wrote incorrect information. Many 970's do have 4+1 VRMs which will not handle a 125w. But not "all", the 3 boards I posted for example. In his case he has a 760G which there are none that have more than 4+1 VRMs they completely can't handle it.

But i clearly said "cant". Again tho i do agree I should have worded it better.

 

[CTurbo]

It's worth pointing out that there is no microATX AM3+ board good enough to run your FX8350. Make sure your case supports full ATX boards before purchasing since your current board is microATX.