Help with re-evaluating my $500-ish PC

PineappleKnight

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Alright, so almost exactly a year ago, I posted to this site asking for opinions on a PC build for around $500. A number of reasons then led to me allocating my PC funds to more important things, and now here I am nearly a year later, with my same old junky PC. I wish to take a second look and reconsider the original build now, however, considering there's probably been new parts released that are better than what I was going to use a year ago.

Another reason is because of how much the original parts have risen in price. Seriously, the memory I was going to go with was $30 or so then, now its $68! That's ridiculous to me, and the whole build is considerably more expensive than $500 at this point because of stuff like that, especially considering a Windows 10 key that I'll of course need to buy as well.

Basically, all I want out of this PC is for it not to be slow trash, and to very easily be able to play 1080/Source quality videos/streams. I don't play games too much anymore these days, and they tend to be older ones if I do, so I definitely don't need anything high-end there, but I'd definitely prefer not to go below the power of the original GPU I was going with.

Here's the original build I was going to go with after some help in my old post:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($70.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($64.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($81.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 950 2GB Superclocked Video Card
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($36.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $450.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-12 12:59 EDT-0400

Note that for whatever reason, the GPU's price in this list is now completely removed, so you have to add on another $145 or so, bumping me up to $595, and again, that's without including a $119 Windows 10 key. I'd really prefer to get this build back down a little below the $500 range. When this list was originally posted, everything came out to about $488, and that was great. But now it's just too expensive for my preferred budget as you can see. So basically, I would like some help on what to tweak and modify to get the price down, or hell, even if I should just wait for perhaps the prices on some of these to drop, because I don't have a ton of experience and am unsure of what to do at this point. But I definitely do not want to skimp on the quality of parts, just to pay less.

Here's my original post from May 2016 if anyone wants to see it for whatever reason: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3068007/opinions-500-ish.html?58edcbcaded29=reload&58edce1bae9d9=reload&58edce2630f03=reload. You can see I was originally going to go with madmatt30's suggestion.
 

Dark Lord of Tech

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($81.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 4GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($118.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $516.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Zerk2012

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511, the CPU has the same performance as the i3, 2 threads 4 cores.
The video card has better performance and a better power supply.
The SSD is a luxery item you can add that later.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($88.85 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B250 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Windforce OC Video Card ($144.99 @ Jet)
Case: Zalman Z1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $513.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-12 13:51 EDT-0400
 
Since this is a 500$-ish build, I went over 500$, I went with a Pentium G4560 which offers similar performance to an i3 6100 for way cheaper, and picked a way faster card. GTX 950 isn't worth getting anyway with the arrival of GTX 1050 and RX 460.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Zotac T500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman T2 Plus MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($25.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $552.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-12 13:55 EDT-0400
 

need4speeds

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G4560\RX-480 build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($54.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($50.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.49 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VO545A1N2U ATX Mid Tower Case w/450W Power Supply ($50.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $499.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-12 14:07 EDT-0400

G4560\GTX1050ti build.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($54.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($50.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.49 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($131.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake VO545A1N2U ATX Mid Tower Case w/450W Power Supply ($50.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $451.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-12 14:08 EDT-0400

No ssd and tiny bit cheaper memory..

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.49 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($131.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake VO545A1N2U ATX Mid Tower Case w/450W Power Supply ($50.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $395.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-12 14:30 EDT-0400
 
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need4speeds

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With a better power supply but it pushes the price up.. The Thermaltake 450watt should work for these builds because they are low wattage.

-Well someone will come on here and complain so here it is with a seasonic 520watt. I also included a better case instead of the absolute cheapest one.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($54.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($50.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.49 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $541.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-12 14:41 EDT-0400

A extra $42 buys you a much better power supply and a nicer case that has intake filters.
 

jwcrellin

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B250 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($131.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $546.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-12 14:19 EDT-0400
 
Do you really need an SSD? Would that money be better invested in a better CPU at this point? Significant performance boost versus time saved.

Jet.com's spring15 promo code can reap you some insane savings. If you reach their cap make sure you split your order. I ordered a number of things and saw I had reach the limit. Hmmm. I play musical chairs and remove some items. I then make a second order. I would have thrown away about $20 or so(been a while...) if I had placed all my eggs in one basket.

Did you upgrade to Windows 10? Yes? Then 10 is tied to your account and you don't need to buy it. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/20530/windows-10-reactivating-after-hardware-change

Do you ever use Windows magnifier or any of its other assistive technologies? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade
 

PineappleKnight

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Wow, I did not expect this many responses so quickly! Thanks everyone, this is great! But yeah, one thing I'm really not certain on is whether or not I do need to pay for Windows 10, honestly, it's a very confusing topic to try and find definitive answers on. The computer I'm using now is a Dell, and came with Windows 7 pre-installed. Couldn't tell you how many years ago, but it's old as dirt, without a doubt. Then like a year or so ago, Microsoft kept pestering me to upgrade to Windows 10 from 7 while it was still free, and eventually I caved and just decided to do it. I've never had to deal with a computer that doesn't have some form of Windows or OS pre-installed. Would I really be able to get Win10 for free on a completely new, different PC under these conditions?

Like, aquielisunari is saying that I can tie 10 to a Microsoft account, but how would that work for a brand new, OS-less computer? Without some form of Windows already on there, how could I access this Microsoft account to activate Windows 10 in the first place? That's where I always get confused.
 




how would that work for a brand new, OS-less computer?
It wouldn't
 

need4speeds

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A search at amazon for quad core, 2tb, win7-10 computers.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_two_brow_3?fst=as%3Aoff&rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A%21493964%2Cn%3A541966%2Cn%3A13896617011%2Cn%3A565098%2Cn%3A13896597011%2Cp_n_operating_system_browse-bin%3A12035945011%7C2232492011%7C2232493011%7C12566246011%7C5945862011%7C5945861011%7C2232494011%2Cp_n_feature_fourteen_browse-bin%3A2057441011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289792011%7C2289793011%7C1264445011%7C2383240011%2Cp_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A7817230011%7C5446815011%7C5446816011%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A7817223011%7C7817224011%7C7817222011&bbn=13896597011&sort=price-asc-rank&ie=UTF8&qid=1492075436

(You will have to pick out a different computer because they sell but new ones get posted.)
$239.00 + $32.19 shipping Lenovo M91 Business High Performance Tower Desktop Computer PC (Intel Core i5 2400 3.1G,4G RAM DDR3,2TB HDD,DVD-ROM,Windows 10 Professional)(Certified Refurbished)
https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Computer-Professional-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01M0DFTP5/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1492075446&sr=1-3&refinements=p_n_operating_system_browse-bin%3A12035945011%7C2232492011%7C2232493011%7C12566246011%7C5945862011%7C5945861011%7C2232494011%2Cp_n_feature_fourteen_browse-bin%3A2057441011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289792011%7C2289793011%7C1264445011%7C2383240011%2Cp_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A7817230011%7C5446815011%7C5446816011%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A7817223011%7C7817224011%7C7817222011

And then add... IMPORTANT! With the GTX1060 make sure you pick the only that comes with a Molex to 6 pin pcie adaptor like shown with this EVGA card. You could opt for the bit cheaper GTX1050ti if you want.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $194.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-13 05:32 EDT-0400
 

need4speeds

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With the IBM Lenovo above..

This will change depending on the system you pick out.. There is a adaptor cable like this for Dell, HP and this one is for these IBM's.
$7.50 & FREE Shipping
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Supply-Adapter-Cable-Lenovo/dp/B00WE5KSFQ

Instead of the GTX 1060 or GTX1050ti.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($56.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $236.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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