Help with Ryzen compatibility

[MDXX]

So im putting together some stuff, and i wanted to make sure everything will work together. New to ddr4 and i see a lot of em say they are optimized on x99 boards, but not fully sure how they will run and if the ram led will be compatible with the mobo leds and all that.

Anyhow the parts are the Ryzen 1600, the MSI B350 Carbon and these ram sticks https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820236076

Thanks!

 

[WildCard999]

While the motherboard doesn't support that exact speed it should work but it will probably be downclocked to 2933mhz. You could always spend the $5 more and get the same version that is 3200mhz.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($154.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $154.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-23 19:38 EDT-0400

I would also update the BIOS to ensure compatibility/stability for the memory.

 

[MDXX]

While the motherboard doesn't support that exact speed it should work but it will probably be downclocked to 2933mhz. You could always spend the $5 more and get the same version that is 3200mhz.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($154.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $154.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-23 19:38 EDT-0400

I would also update the BIOS to ensure compatibility/stability for the memory.

Oh shoot i missed that, i doubt theres much different from 2400 to 3200? But 5 bucks more for 3200 id do. I dont think they model comes in a lower speed than 3000 or id get it. Good eye

 

[chalky16]

Check the motherboard QVL list. It will say what speeds specific ram run at. For ryzen you want ram with Samsung b dies in them. Also make sure to update bios because they've made it easier to get higher speeds with ram

 

[WildCard999]

From what I've read Ryzen works/performs better with faster RAM.

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-amd-am4-platform-best-memory-kit-amd-ryzen-cpus_192259/6
"By going to 3200 MHz over 2133 MHz we were seeing near 50% performance improvement in simple memory bandwidth tests and a 16% performance jump in our 1080P gaming test. Hopefully AMD board markers will update their UEFI builds to allow for higher than 3200MHz memory kit use without needing to mess with the adjusting the bus speed of the processor (RefClck)."

 

[Chugalug_]

There's a huge difference, that RAM is overpriced though, here's a better option.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sykwrH/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gtzb

 

[MDXX]

There's a huge difference, that RAM is overpriced though, here's a better option.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sykwrH/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gtzb

ddr3 i thought didnt make much a difference, why is there such a huge gain with faster ram speed for ddr4 and am4?

Also the ram you linked isnt RGB, kinda want rgb doing a theme build

 

[MDXX]

From what I've read Ryzen works/performs better with faster RAM.

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-amd-am4-platform-best-memory-kit-amd-ryzen-cpus_192259/6
"By going to 3200 MHz over 2133 MHz we were seeing near 50% performance improvement in simple memory bandwidth tests and a 16% performance jump in our 1080P gaming test. Hopefully AMD board markers will update their UEFI builds to allow for higher than 3200MHz memory kit use without needing to mess with the adjusting the bus speed of the processor (RefClck)."

50% performance seems like a lot. Why such a difference now?

 

[Chugalug_]

Ryzen as a platform scales extremely well with higher frequency memory, Intel is a different game.
The LED kit also isn't RGB.
This is RGB: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ybrcCJ/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzr

 

[MDXX]

Ryzen as a platform scales extremely well with higher frequency memory, Intel is a different game.
The LED kit also isn't RGB.
This is RGB: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ybrcCJ/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzr

Yeah those are more expensive than the ram i listed, and those got bad reviews

 

[Chugalug_]

They're top notch sticks, don't read Amazon reviews, they're garbage 80% of the time.
And as I mentioned, those aren't RGB, they're single color LEDs.
The Vengeance RGB is what you want for those then if you really won't go with the Trident Zs which are better overall.

 

[MDXX]

They're top notch sticks, don't read Amazon reviews, they're garbage 80% of the time.
And as I mentioned, those aren't RGB, they're single color LEDs.
The Vengeance RGB is what you want for those then if you really won't go with the Trident Zs which are better overall.

I was reading newegg lol and still a lot of bad reviews o.o confused. The ones i listed all seem positive

And i was fine with the ones i listed being white. But i get i said rgb and you showed me actual rgb lol. I did want those sticks but the reviews turned me off. But if you say there good

 

[Chugalug_]

They are, they're among the best you can buy next to Corsair's Dominator Platinum series which are overpriced.

 

[MDXX]

They are, they're among the best you can buy next to Corsair's Dominator Platinum series which are overpriced.

Thanks :^ Might switch to the Asus Crosshair hero 6 then for the Asus arua

 

[Chugalug_]

The Crosshair 6 is overkill too.
Do you mind if I take a look at your list?
I can maintain the aesthetic while lowering cost and improving performance for the money.

 

[MDXX]

The Crosshair 6 is overkill too.
Do you mind if I take a look at your list?
I can maintain the aesthetic while lowering cost and improving performance for the money.

I own all of this but of crouse the cpu, mobo and ram. The msi 1070 is not going to match but i think i will get a volta gpu down the line and have it fit. Or ill figure out a way to plasti dip this and have it be jet black. Just not sure if you can plasti dip the clear red parts for the led to shine through on them. I HATE RED

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C4VZTH

EDIT: I wouldnt mind a Black, Powder blue and white build. To represent Cloud 9 esports team. I liked the look of the MSI Krait, but got bad reviews. Dont want to risk getting a bad mobo

 

[Chugalug_]

Eeeeeerm, practically everything there is overpriced.... And what's with the HDD? a 500GB WD Black for $60????
WD Blacks are only worth it in the high capacity range, and even then the X300 and Barracuda Pro offer similar performance for much cheaper.
Not to mention only a 1600 and GTX 1070 to go with it..
Next time please run this by someone first.

 

[MDXX]

Eeeeeerm, practically everything there is overpriced.... And what's with the HDD? a 500GB WD Black for $60????
WD Blacks are only worth it in the high capacity range, and even then the X300 and Barracuda Pro offer similar performance for much cheaper.
Not to mention only a 1600 and GTX 1070 to go with it..
Next time please run this by someone first.

Ive had that drive for like 4 years now, still going strong! had a best buy gift card at the time and that was the best i could get lol. Like i said i own all that stuff now but the mobo ram and cpu in that list.

I chose the 1600 because im not a fan of spending more than 230$ on a cpu. I dont know why.

 

[Chugalug_]

If you want aesthetics, consider this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3wbkcf/msi-b350-tomahawk-arctic-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-tomahawk-arctic

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($282.76 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($165.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $530.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-23 22:27 EDT-0400

 

[MDXX]

If you want aesthetics, consider this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3wbkcf/msi-b350-tomahawk-arctic-atx-am4-motherboard-b350-tomahawk-arctic

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($282.76 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($165.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $530.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-23 22:27 EDT-0400

I dont like the tomahawk lol, its ugly to me. And i was debating with the 1700, but i read plenty of stuff saying i can stream 720p and game fine with a 1600

 

[Chugalug_]

You can, but the 1700 for a little more offers 4 extra threads, you were going to waste it on the motherboard anyway, might as well stick it where it counts.

 

[MDXX]

You can, but the 1700 for a little more offers 4 extra threads, you were going to waste it on the motherboard anyway, might as well stick it where it counts.

Man im throwing options around, i cant make up my mind haha. Do you have any personal opinion on the MSI krait?

 

[Chugalug_]

Not a fantastic board, but if you're really in love with the look of it it should be fine.

 

[MDXX]

Not a fantastic board, but if you're really in love with the look of it it should be fine.

I do, but i wont sacrifice performance/ reliability for aesthetics

What exactly isnt fantastic about it?

 

[Chugalug_]

Components, sound chip, design etc.