[SOLVED] Help with upgrading PC for gaming ?

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I have:

Biostar H81MLV3 motherboard
Intel Pentium G3220

I want to upgrade it in budget for gaming.
 
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I get what you're aiming for. But with latest tech, we are currently in the spot where 10th gen low-end CPUs will outperform 4th gen i7 CPUs. And that with far cheaper price per CPU. That being said;

I was just thinking if op only has say like $200

Here's how much latest, low-end combo would be:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cTbJ9N

CPU: Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($113.23 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H510M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 CL17 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $224.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-03 06:54 EST-0500

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Buy a dedicated GPU, e.g GTX 750 Ti, GT 1030 or GTX 1050 Ti and you're golden. Any better GPU and you will bottleneck CPU. And in terms of CPU upgrade, better to go with CPU-MoBo-RAM combo, which essentially means buying a new PC.

With GTX 1050 Ti, you're looking 720p gaming, on medium settings. Or 1080p gaming on low settings, IF your CPU doesn't bottleneck, that is.
 
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Given that OP has low-end Pentium CPU, CPU upgrade to i7 most likely would merit to PSU upgrade as well. IMO, not worth to spend money on old i7 when new CPU-MoBo-RAM combo offers far more performance with same or little bit more money.
yeah I definitely agree I was just thinking if op only has say like $200 it would be better to get 4 cores from an i5 or i7 and a gt 1030 instead of the 2 cores and 2 threads with a 1050 ti. And a side not, If swapping for an i7 would merit a psu upgrade I think a 1050 ti would as well.
 
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I get what you're aiming for. But with latest tech, we are currently in the spot where 10th gen low-end CPUs will outperform 4th gen i7 CPUs. And that with far cheaper price per CPU. That being said;

I was just thinking if op only has say like $200

Here's how much latest, low-end combo would be:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cTbJ9N

CPU: Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($113.23 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H510M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 CL17 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $224.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-03 06:54 EST-0500

While i7-4770 would cost $260,
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sCNp99/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770

Resulting in a situation, where OP would need to pay $35 more, for average of 12% less performance. Since that's how much i3-10100 is better,
comparison: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4770-vs-Intel-Core-i3-10100/1978vs4075

So, even when putting things into numbers (prices), going with old i7 CPU isn't worthwhile.
Moreover, with newer MoBo, OP always have choice for CPU upgrade. While i7-4770 is the top what H81 chipset can do, blocking off all and any CPU upgrades.
 
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I get what you're aiming for. But with latest tech, we are currently in the spot where 10th gen low-end CPUs will outperform 4th gen i7 CPUs. And that with far cheaper price per CPU. That being said;



Here's how much latest, low-end combo would be:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cTbJ9N

CPU: Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($113.23 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H510M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 CL17 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $224.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-02-03 06:54 EST-0500

While i7-4770 would cost $260,
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sCNp99/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770

Resulting in a situation, where OP would need to pay $35 more, for average of 12% less performance. Since that's how much i3-10100 is better,
comparison: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4770-vs-Intel-Core-i3-10100/1978vs4075

So, even when putting things into numbers (prices), going with old i7 CPU isn't worthwhile.
Moreover, with newer MoBo, OP always have choice for CPU upgrade. While i7-4770 is the top what H81 chipset can do, blocking off all and any CPU upgrades.
that's a completely inflated price. The i7 doesn't actually cost $260
 
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that's a completely inflated price. The i7 doesn't actually cost $260

Pcpp, for some reason, links to Amazon.UK,
link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00CO8TBNS

Where CPU costs 250 quid (GBP), which equals 340.24 bucks (USD).

However, when putting in amazon.com (aka amazon USA), we see that CPU does cost 260 bucks,
link: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4770-Quad-Core-Processor-BX80646I74770/dp/B00CO8TBNS

And that there, is actually a sale price, where original price was 329.99 bucks.

Btw, i7-4770 MSRP is 312 bucks, making the price of 260 bucks, cheaper than it should cost.
CPU MSRP source: https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...r-8m-cache-up-to-3-90-ghz/specifications.html
 

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no. It should cost under $100 as it is like 10 years old.

What it "should cost", according to it's age, has nothing to do with what it actually does cost. If given there is limited supply (which there is, since it's EOL) and CPU is still sought after (since it's good and many still have Haswell/Broadwell systems in use), the price is not going to drop.

Heck, based on your "old age logic", should all cars, older than 25 years, cost a buck or even pennies? Since they are that old? :unsure:
 

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What it "should cost", according to it's age, has nothing to do with what it actually does cost. If given there is limited supply (which there is, since it's EOL) and CPU is still sought after (since it's good and many still have Haswell/Broadwell systems in use), the price is not going to drop.

Heck, based on your "old age logic", should all cars, older than 25 years, cost a buck or even pennies? Since they are that old? :unsure:
it costs about $80. And I'm not using "old age logic." do some research and you will realize amazon prices arent always real market prices
 

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amazon prices arent always real market prices

Amazon is the biggest online market there is and if you can't find it from anywhere else, chances are that you're still able to find it from amazon.

As far as price goes, i7-4770 is 200 bucks in the Egg,
link: https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-4th-gen-core-i7-4770/p/N82E16819116900

So, it's not just "amazon issue", as you imply it to be.

it costs about $80

With this price, you can get one, used CPU from Ebay.
To me, Ebay, isn't reputable source to suggest PC hardware to buy from. AliExpress and Alibaba fall into the same pool.

Btw, i suggest new items, whenever possible. It's up to anyone themselves, to go and look used hardware from 2nd hand market, if they so desire.
 

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To me, Ebay, isn't reputable source to suggest PC hardware to buy from. AliExpress and Alibaba fall into the same pool.

Btw, i suggest new items, whenever possible. It's up to anyone themselves, to go and look used hardware from 2nd hand market, if they so desire.
About the first part of what you said I was just saying that amazon has some really inflated prices sometimes. Moving on though, ebay is a reputable source to buy CERTAIN hardware from. CPUs are probably the safest piece of hardware to buy used as not much can be wrong with a CPU.
 

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CPUs are probably the safest piece of hardware to buy used as not much can be wrong with a CPU.

With CPU, it either works or doesn't (e.g bent/broken pins). And when buying 2nd hand, you will always take that gamble, with little, if any safety net (refund).

I, personally, won't buy 2nd hand hardware, despite how good of a price it may have. Getting DOA is worst that can happen and returning it, to get your money back, in Ebay, is next to impossible. Since you'd be buying the CPU from private party (another person), they have 0 legal responsibility to accept your return and refund you. Not to mention all the scams going on. E.g i7-4770 is listed but what you get in package is e.g Celeron G1820 (or any other weak/obsolete CPU).

Like i said, 2nd hand market is optional and up to anyone to decide. I still be linking and suggesting new hardware (when possible).
 
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