Here it is! Serious 6800 info

[Andyddr]

http://mbnet.fi/elixir/NV40/

Go check the score out before it`s taken down again. Some leaked pictures from [h]ardocp's review.


A64 3200+ CAAAC 0345SPMW,Gigabyte K8N PRo,TT Venus 12,Gexcube 9800PRO 510Core 420Mem,512megs A-Data Vitesta,Antec Plus1080AMG with 430w TruePower PSU<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by andyddr on 04/14/04 03:08 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[splenda20]

Slowly going through them. Notice the NDA being lifted on April 14 at 9AM EST.

What page are the benchies on?

 

[Andyddr]

So many images there I`m not sure. Just on halfway myself.

A64 3200+ CAAAC 0345SPMW,Gigabyte K8N PRo,TT Venus 12,Gexcube 9800PRO 510Core 420Mem,512megs A-Data Vitesta,Antec Plus1080AMG with 430w TruePower PSU

 

[Clob]

Nasty!!! I can only imagine what ATI is going to muster up! "drools"

"If youre paddling upstream in a canoe and a
wheel falls off, how many pancakes fit in a doghouse? None! Icecream doesn't have bones!!!"

 

[splenda20]

For those who can't get to them...
COD on 6800Ultra @ 16*12 4aa 16af = avg FPS 147.9
COD on 9800XT @ 1280*1024 4AA 16AF = 107.7
UT2004 on 6800Ultra @ 1280*1024 4AA 16AF = 46.5
UT2004 on 9800XT @ 1280*1024 noAA 8AF = 45.7

 

[MrPanther0]

excellent site man, thanks very much.
The 6800 is higher than the 5950 and 9800xt in every test with much better quality settings and often higher resolutions, just look at the farcry benchies

 

[splenda20]

Not really in Far Cry
6800Ultra @1024*768 4AA 8AF = 33.6
9800XT @1024*768 2AA 8AF = 34.1
only diff is 9800 uses 2AA and 6800 uses 4AA. Not enough of a performance increase to justify an upgrade IMO. This is very disappointing, hopefully ATI will perform better.
or NFS:underground
6800Ultra @1280*1024 4AA 8AF = 50.8
9800XT @1280*1024 4AA 8AF = 46.2

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by splenda20 on 04/13/04 09:35 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[gobeavers]

still, 2x more AA

"640K oughta be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates
That'll be enough L1 cache for me too...

 

[MrPanther0]

Your right, i didnt look at all of them.
1. If ATI's current card can do that then even a revamp of the current core could very well offset the NV40's lead.
I have always wondered why they didnt apply the low k+ technique to the r360 core. Look what it did to the 9600.
2. I think the higher number of pipelines are much more of a benefit at higher resolutions.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by MrPanther0 on 04/13/04 09:35 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Vapor]

After looking at all the .gifs (the benchmarks, not the IQs), here is my rundown:

FarCry 1.1 - unimpressed. Barely better than 9800XT (same overall FPS, just an extra level of AA)
NFS: U - unimpressed. BARELY faster than 9800XT at same settings.
Flight Sim 2004 - fairly impressed. Noticably faster than 9800XT on higher settings. Not a staggering difference, however.
UT2k4 - impressed. SAME speed as 9800XT, but with 4xAA/16xAF vs. 0xAA/8xAF. 12x10.
Splinter Cell: PT - impressed. SAME speed as 9800XT, but 12x10 vs. 10x7 and 0/8 vs. 0/0.
Battlefield Vietnam - quite impressed. SLIGHTLY faster than 9800XT. 12x10 vs. 10x7 and 4/8 vs 0/8.
CoD - very impressed. performance already quoted.

Overall: disappointed--I expected a blowout over the 9800XT. It certainly is a very fast card, however.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.

 

[Vapor]

It's sad how the only two games I play out of those benchies are FarCry and NFS: U...where there is LITTLE performance over my 9800XT. Heck, maybe even none at 441,378. I like UT2k4, but nobody else in my dorm does, and multiplayer is the only fun way to play. I'm disappointed, frankly.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.

 

[MrPanther0]

But some things to consider:
1. We have absolutely NO system specs listing. Could be a 733 MHZ P3 or could be an FX53.
2. It could be on an insuffecient powersupply
3. Do we know what drivers are being used? I dont know because i didnt look at all of the pics.

 

[gobeavers]

As brought up at Anandtech, NFS:U could be a (EDIT) CPU intesive app. Being that these benchmarks aren't run at the same settings I am not trusting this stuff as running in regular benchmark conditions...

"640K oughta be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates
That'll be enough L1 cache for me too...<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by gobeavers on 04/13/04 10:20 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Vapor]

[H] would not be so negligent as to use an insufficient PSU, system specs are fairly irrelevant, since those are expected FPS for the 9800XT on a modern system (and it is VERY doubtful that they used different systems). Not using the latest drivers is something [H] does not do. 60.72 is the latest and has support for NV40.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.

 

[gobeavers]

Would [H] benchmark the two cards, one running 4x AA/16x AF and one running 0 AA/0 AF or 2xAA/16x AF?

"640K oughta be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates
That'll be enough L1 cache for me too...

 

[scottchen]

I went through all the images, the motherboard looks like an Abit IC7-G, therefore it has to have a p4 procesor. It had twinx corsair ram as well.

-AMD Athlon64 3200+@2300mhz -GAK8N -3x512 Hynix PC3200 ram@192mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Albatron 5900PV @ 560/1000 -SB Audigy -Adaptec 1210SA Raid -2x120G Seagate SATA150 7200.7 Raid0 -Enermax 460watt psu

 

[gobeavers]

Still, I want to see a review with apples to apples comparisions.

"640K oughta be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates
That'll be enough L1 cache for me too...

 

[Vapor]

Yeah, they always do the max playable settings....

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.

 

[scottchen]

Do you know what i'm thinking right now?
6800Ultra has about 5-50% increase in performance compare to the 9800XT, here's what's making me think twice, how the hell does it get 2x 3dmark03 scores?

-AMD Athlon64 3200+@2300mhz -GAK8N -3x512 Hynix PC3200 ram@192mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Albatron 5900PV @ 560/1000 -SB Audigy -Adaptec 1210SA Raid -2x120G Seagate SATA150 7200.7 Raid0 -Enermax 460watt psu

 

[Vapor]

The one with 12k was on a OC'd system and the 6800U was OC'd itself supposedly. The drivers were also not FM approved.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.

 

[TheRod]

I was wnadering...

HardOPC don't usually mess with quality settings and are fair in their comparison. Could it be a problem with nVidia drivers? Or maybe, they take the route of how much more details can you get from this new card in comparison with the existing products?

I doubt that the drivers can't deactivate FSAA or ANISO, and I doubt HardOPC took the "at equal FPS how much more detail/res. can't we get". It's weird, I can't conclude anything without the text!

I hope we will get answer soon!

--
Would you buy a potato powered chipset?

 

[TheRod]

<font color=red>Damn it!</font color=red> Have you see seen another <A HREF="http://mbnet.fi/elixir/NV40/10817474486qLMOmeutS_1_12_l.jpg" target="_new">HEATER</A> from nVidia!

<A HREF="http://mbnet.fi/elixir/NV40/10817474486qLMOmeutS_1_14_l.jpg" target="_new">This heatsink can easily cool a 5GHz Prescott</A>, did nVidia asked Intel about heat dissipation issue???

At least <A HREF="http://mbnet.fi/elixir/NV40/10817474486qLMOmeutS_2_1_l.gif" target="_new">these numbers</A> are quite impressive for overclockers freak!

Am I sarcastic????

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Would you buy a potato powered chipset?<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TheRod on 04/13/04 10:58 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[sparks219]

In order to increase the AF and AA settings twice, it requires quite a bit of processing power to sustain similar frame rates. I do not doubt for one second the 6800U has twice the processing power as the 9800 XT. ALso, I'm assuming a non-mature driver is being used to connduct these tests. More performance should come with some optjmization.

Depending on the OEM cost pricing, if I can get the 6800 non-pro for under 300 Canadian, and if it could be overclocked to to the ultra levels, I am extremely interested in purchasing one to replace my G4 MX440

Sparks

 

[scottchen]

If you're not buying from a distributor then you got no chance.

-AMD Athlon64 3200+@2300mhz -GAK8N -3x512 Hynix PC3200 ram@192mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Albatron 5900PV @ 560/1000 -SB Audigy -Adaptec 1210SA Raid -2x120G Seagate SATA150 7200.7 Raid0 -Enermax 460watt psu

 

[MrPanther0]

I wonder why nVidia couldnt have tried real hard and made this card come out like say, last decemeber, ati would be dead or struggling to hold on to 5% of the market.