Hey guys! What cpu is better!?

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Ok guys, so I have a gtx 780, and it is simply not performing up to benchmark levels and I mean pretty damn significantly. I am getting 79 minimum fps in battlefield 3, the benchmarks you see are getting like 90 minimum.

So there are a couple of things that I have on my mind so I will just fire them away in bullet points but first and foremost here is my set up;

. i7-2700k cpu
. Asus p8z68-v pro gen 3 mobo (this is a pcie 3.0 mobo, my cpu downgrades it to 2.0)
. Corsair 750w enthusiast series psu
. 16gb of corsair vengance ram

Now, I can not see how it can be ANYTHING other than my cpu that is responsible for this FPS crisis lol, other than my GPU somehow being a 'funny one' but I do not think this would be the case, right?

Anyway so what I want to throw at you cpu guys is which of these processors are better, and why? If you want to get really fancy telling me why they are better than my i7-2700k would be even more obliged.

#1 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Graphics-BX80646I74770K-Generation-Technology/dp/B00CV3E3XE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1373895741&sr=8-1&keywords=4670K

#2 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Generation-i7-3770K-3-50GHz-Technology/dp/B007X1JM30/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1373896425&sr=1-1&keywords=i7

#3 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Generation-i5-3570K-3-40GHz-Technology/dp/B007RUZKK6/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1373896425&sr=1-2&keywords=i7

This matters because I use a 144hz monitor and I do want to reap the benefits of it while still playing with badass graphics. And I strictly game in 1920x1080p, the question is which of these cpu's will get me the best raw fps in games.

I'd love some feedback chaps, Chris. - I do not mean to be lazy by posting this here, it is just I can not read cpu's if y'know what I mean, and you guys seem to give the most appropriate direct answers rather than spending hours reading articles and wotnot.

 
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Sakkura
Well there are a few factors to consider there.

The K models are fully unlocked for overclocking, but are otherwise nearly identical to cheaper version without the K. So if you're not overclocking, you can save some money by dropping from eg. a 3770K to a 3770.

The 3770K and 4670 are also from different generations, as indicated by the first digit. Yours is from the one preceding them. But the performance improvement from Sandy Bridge (2xxx) to Ivy Bridge (3xxx) to Haswell (4xxx) is quite small.

Finally, Core i7s have hyperthreading, which Core i5s do not have. It lets each core work on two threads, so there are another 4 virtual cores. The benefit from those virtual cores varies, and it's often quite limited in games. It tends to...
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Novuake, there is no doubt that what you said there is the most sensible solution.

And I get that most of you cpu guys will probably grimace at reading this, but overclocking is just not something I want to keep off the cards. The risk factors are just a big turn off for me to be honest, I get that reading around on the internet will give you a good idea as to what voltage to set and wotnot, I just get the feeling I would end up frying my i7-2700k to be honest, lol.

But yeh, keeping strictly to the thread, which cpu out of those is going to give me the best performance, is what I want to know.
 
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Absolute best, 4770K. But its not gonna give you what you want, nor will it be in any way a moneys worth upgrade.
 
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If you're not sure about what voltage to set, just leave it at default. That will limit how far you can overclock, but it will be that little bit safer and more power-efficient as well.
 
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And... I fed you guys the total wrong cpu's basically, which of these two is better for sheer gaming purposes. (my bad!)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Graphics-BX80646I54670-Generation-Technology/dp/B00CRUIWMY/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1373897980&sr=1-5&keywords=4670K

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Generation-i7-3770K-3-50GHz-Technology/dp/B007X1JM30/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1373896425&sr=1-1&keywords=i7

I heard online that the i5 4670 is actually superior for gaming, and that the i7 4770k is more for rendering and wotnot, any truth behind this folks?
 
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Well there are a few factors to consider there.

The K models are fully unlocked for overclocking, but are otherwise nearly identical to cheaper version without the K. So if you're not overclocking, you can save some money by dropping from eg. a 3770K to a 3770.

The 3770K and 4670 are also from different generations, as indicated by the first digit. Yours is from the one preceding them. But the performance improvement from Sandy Bridge (2xxx) to Ivy Bridge (3xxx) to Haswell (4xxx) is quite small.

Finally, Core i7s have hyperthreading, which Core i5s do not have. It lets each core work on two threads, so there are another 4 virtual cores. The benefit from those virtual cores varies, and it's often quite limited in games. It tends to be quite beneficial for things like rendering, as you mention.
 
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Thanks Sakkura I enjoyed that knowledge bomb. But now I am contemplating if it even is my cpu, just went on battlefield there and I have task manager open on my left monitor to see what my CPU usage is. The cpu usage is about 40-50%, so it has me thinking it is not the cpu at all, but then again surely it can not be the graphic card.

The moments where the fps drops though is when, basically, a lot of s**t goes down at once or i like go into a new open area or big car explosions happen and stuff. This is cpu orientated stuff right? The cpu usage, i think contradicts this though, very confused, lol. I mean when some of these things happen my fps goes as low as like 67.
 
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Sounds like the CPU to me. The thing is games are not capable of using the full quad core + threads of your CPU. So most likely 2 of your cores are being maxed and that = 45-50%. The easiest way to confirm this is by OCing just enough to make a difference. A 4.4GHz OC on Sandy is easy and simple if you have a decent cooler the risk is near 0...
 
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I see, I see, I will give that a go for sure, is there anyway this can be checked via windows? The task manager just give s a generic overview of the overall cpu usage rather than individual cores. Is there a way of using windows to display individual core loads?
 
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Task Manager can display CPU load as an overall graph or as a graph per core, you just have to change that setting.
 
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Hey fellas, I REALLY apologize for this late reply, I got called into work. Firstly my drivers are up to date, and secondly the test;

What I found was core #0 was running at 68-78% core #1 was running at 30-64% and then as for cores #2 and #4 they were running at 10-30% each sometimes even hitting 40-50% but rarely, it got lower core by core. Is this classed as a bottleneck? I just can not see it being anything other than my cpu.
 
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Sounds like one to me... But its not concrete. OC to 4.2GHz and see.
 
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Well it depends on your ambient temps?

Run prime95 or OCCT for a few minutes and see what happens?

It could be that the paste is dried up or the cooler has moved or something like that.
 
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Nov, do you think if i set the cpu ratio to 42 I willl need to tweak the voltage? And would 4.0ghz do the trick, I know for a fact that this should not make me have to tweak the voltage 😀 - one last thing dude, could you give me a legit download link to prime95 (so many on the internet, and i do not know which ones to trust! haha)
 
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