Hi everyone, I have a quick AMD cpu question

[Fallschirmjager]

Please forgive my English, it is not my first language

I am in the process of building my first system from scratch and trying to do it with as few mistakes as possible.
Alot of money will be invested into it so I want to get it as perfect as possible.
I have settled on the AMD Athlon 64 4000+ chip
I will be ordering from ZipZoomFly.com
They have two such chips listed
One if the San Diego and the other is the Clawhammer

What is the difference between the two?
Is the Clawhammer worth the 34 extra dollars they are asking for it?

I am looking to order the parts tonight so a quick response would really be helpful.

And if anyone is interested I will list the rest of the system so the people here can critique it. I have heard from several people that this is the best forum to come to in reguards to computer hardware help.


Thanks in advance
Rudel

 

[endyen]

I would be willing to pay more for the SanDiego core. It is newer, smaller, cooler, has a better memory controler, and a few other enhancements.
Get the San Diego.

 

[Fallschirmjager]

I would be willing to pay more for the SanDiego core. It is newer, smaller, cooler, has a better memory controler, and a few other enhancements.
Get the San Diego.

I forgot to mention, it is the Clawhammer chip that is 34 dollars more expensive.
If it makes any difference at all, I plan on using the system as both a heavy gaming machine and a work machine.
I run ALOT of spreadsheets in Excell and MS Access

 

[Teh_Catman]

Clawhammer is the older chip. It would be better to get the San Diego.

French:Clawhammer est le morceau plus ancien. Il vaudrait mieux de passer San Diego.

Spanish: Clawhammer es la viruta más vieja. Sería mejor conseguir la San Diego.

German: Clawhammer ist der ältere Span. Es würde besser sein, das San Diego zu erhalten.

Italian: Clawhammer è il più vecchio circuito integrato. Sarebbe migliore ottenere San Diego.

hope that helps.

EDIT: took out japanese toms doesnt like it apearantly. All translation from Bablefish

 

[Fallschirmjager]

Thanks

As long as I am asking questions
How much of a bottleneck would there be when using two 7800 GTXs in SLi?

 

[Teh_Catman]

as far as I know there is no bottleneck with sli

French: dans la mesure où je sais il n'y a aucun goulot d'étranglement avec le sli

Spanish: por lo que sé no hay embotellamiento con sli

German: insoweit ich weiß, gibt es keinen Engpaß mit sli

Italian: per quanto so non ci è ingorgo con lo sli

PS you could save me some trouble by telling us your native language.

EDIT: fixed spanish translation

 

[Fallschirmjager]

German

But I read English so it is fine to post replies in English

 

[endyen]

The 4000+ and the 7800GTX are well matched. SLI adds all the eye candy you could ask for.
Why did you come to the english THGC, rather than the german site?
Don't take that to mean we dont like it, because we are honored that you value our community so highly.

 

[Fallschirmjager]

I live in Virginia now and I thought it would be easier to reference American websites and talk about products in USD and have people understand what I am talking about
Plus it lets me practice my English

 

[endyen]

Glad to have you here. Your english seems quite good.

 

[Fallschirmjager]

15 years of classes

 

[Fallschirmjager]

BTW
Here is the rest of the system in case anyone wants to take a look
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/time-system-ftopict168654.html

 

[Teh_Catman]

I'd never guess english is your second language. I have 2 problems with your build though.
1) Asus is only good for Intel
2) Samsung CD/DVD drives are crap

In german (from Bablefish)
Ich würde nie schätzen, daß Englisch Ihre zweite Sprache ist. Ich habe 2 Probleme mit Ihrem Bau zwar. 1) ist Asus für Intel 2) Samsung CD/DVD Antriebe sind Mist nur gut

EDIT: as a non american I know that its hard to find anything other than Abit, Asus or MSI so if Asus is all you can get go Abit LOL.

da ein nicht amerikanisches ich wissen, daß sein hartes, alles anders als Abit, Asus oder MSI zu finden also, wenn Asus alles ist, Sie erhalten kann, gehen Abit.

 

[Fallschirmjager]

1. Why is Asus bad for AMD?

2. I have used this DVD drive for 24+ months with not a single problem

 

[Teh_Catman]

Asus is overpriced from the performance.
And if your samsung drive works good then keep it your lucky.

EDIT: it would help to see where your ordering from to recommend other Mobo's. Since were both not american I wont rub newegg prices in your face.

Asus ist overpriced von der Leistung. Und wenn Ihr samsung Antrieb gutes dann bearbeitet, halten Sie es Ihr glückliches. REDIGIEREN Sie: wo Ihre Einrichtung helfen zu sehen es würde, von, zum anderen Mobos zu empfehlen. Da beide nicht amerikanischen waren, reibe ich nicht newegg Preise in Ihrem Gesicht.

 

[Fallschirmjager]

I thought 229 was reasonable and it has alot of expandibility if I ever wish to upgrade
Plus it is one of the few boards I found that run both cards at 16x


EDIT:
I do all of my odering from ZipZoomFly.com
Newegg.com charges tax in the state of Virginia

 

[Teh_Catman]

1 GFX card barely uses the bandwith of an 16x PCI-E slot. If your not going to OC then Asus is a great board. Asus is like honda they are reliable, but you always want that yamaha. (Sorry motorcycle refences is the best I could come up with).

1 GFX Karte benutzt kaum das bandwith eines 16x PCI-E Schlitzes. Wenn Ihr Gehen nicht zu OC dann Asus verschalt ein großes ist. Asus ist wie honda, das sie zuverlässig sind, aber Sie wünschen immer dieses yamaha. (traurige Motorrad refences ist das beste, das ich mit oben kommen könnte).

EDIT: I know the translation cant be too accurate but its gotta be better than when I told my Icelandic friend I like curry and he got a totally different message.

 

[vagabond]

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