High End PC Suddenly Getting Low FPS on Games That Weren't Previously Low

[Corundum]

My MSi GE70 2PL Apache gaming laptop is suddenly experiencing low frame rate on some games that were previously fine, as well as barely running some games it should be able to. Deus Ex Human revolution DC and rocket league, as well as some others are suddenly getting below 20 frames depsite being fine before, and the battlefield 1 beta is getting less than 10 frames, despite the fact that my computer should be able to run it. I have installed all the latest Intel and nvidia drivers, and these are my specs:
GE force GTX 850M
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4720HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz
8 GB RAM (7.92 usable)
1920 x 1080, 59Hz
Nvidia driver 372.70
Microsoft windows 8.1
Thanks

 

[pigeoncracker]

What's it doing during games? Do you have a history graph you can set up to record what's going on? Something like an Overlay so you can see what's going on when you're running a game? Checking temperatures, clock speeds, program interference (clean booting), and cleaning all drivers are good things to start with.

 

[DrTurdecken]

To add to pigeoncracker, you can try using task manager or process explorer (better version of task manager that i use) to see all background processes and anything that may be interfering with your PC.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer.aspx

 

[Corundum]

To add to pigeoncracker, you can try using task manager or process explorer (better version of task manager that i use) to see all background processes and anything that may be interfering with your PC.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer.aspx

I got the program, and ran it. I don't really understand what its saying, but Deus Ex was using about 20 CPU in the main menu, and around 10 in game. Nothing else is using any significant cpu other than 'System Idle Preferences' which is using between 80 and 90. I have no idea if this is normal or not. Just noticed that some of the games that dont work have a very weird and annoying graphicla error where everything jitters slightly if the game is in fullscreen.

 

[pigeoncracker]

I got the program, and ran it. I don't really understand what its saying, but Deus Ex was using about 20 CPU in the main menu, and around 10 in game. Nothing else is using any significant cpu other than 'System Idle Preferences' which is using between 80 and 90. I have no idea if this is normal or not. Just noticed that some of the games that dont work have a very weird and annoying graphicla error where everything jitters slightly if the game is in fullscreen.

Can you try clean booting? Or showing us a picture of the aforementioned graphs?

 

[Corundum]

I got the program, and ran it. I don't really understand what its saying, but Deus Ex was using about 20 CPU in the main menu, and around 10 in game. Nothing else is using any significant cpu other than 'System Idle Preferences' which is using between 80 and 90. I have no idea if this is normal or not. Just noticed that some of the games that dont work have a very weird and annoying graphicla error where everything jitters slightly if the game is in fullscreen.

Can you try clean booting? Or showing us a picture of the aforementioned graphs?

How does one clean boot and what things does it delete? Deus Ex is under the steam tabs. I don't know if this is what you wanted. http://imgur.com/a/V98zD

 

[pigeoncracker]

How does one clean boot and what things does it delete? Deus Ex is under the steam tabs. I don't know if this is what you wanted. http://imgur.com/a/V98zD

Not really what I was looking for. There's not really much that it tells me. I was looking for a screen more like this, recording while you're playing a game or just being idle.
http://imgur.com/a/ULf0r
This was managed with EVGA's PrecisionX 16. You can use MSI Afterburner to the same effect, or another program. MSI's Afterburner is going to have the graphs straight away on the front page, and PrecisionX has it under HW Monitoring in the menu top left of the program.

Clean booting doesn't delete anything. It stops all programs except for the essentials from running at startup so you can see if a program is causing those FPS drops.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/929135

 

[Corundum]

How does one clean boot and what things does it delete? Deus Ex is under the steam tabs. I don't know if this is what you wanted. http://imgur.com/a/V98zD

Not really what I was looking for. There's not really much that it tells me. I was looking for a screen more like this, recording while you're playing a game or just being idle.
http://imgur.com/a/ULf0r
This was managed with EVGA's PrecisionX 16. You can use MSI Afterburner to the same effect, or another program. MSI's Afterburner is going to have the graphs straight away on the front page, and PrecisionX has it under HW Monitoring in the menu top left of the program.

Clean booting doesn't delete anything. It stops all programs except for the essentials from running at startup so you can see if a program is causing those FPS drops.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/929135

I got Afterburner and recorded the stats while the game was running. I used snipping tool for the idle ones, but couldnt think of a way of recording the gameplay stats without Alt tabbing and exiting the game so i took a photo. Sorry for poor quality.

Idle Images: http://imgur.com/a/zeWBT

Gameplay Image: http://imgur.com/JDfm7GY

 

[pigeoncracker]

I got Afterburner and recorded the stats while the game was running. I used snipping tool for the idle ones, but couldnt think of a way of recording the gameplay stats without Alt tabbing and exiting the game so i took a photo. Sorry for poor quality.

Idle Images: http://imgur.com/a/zeWBT

Gameplay Image: http://imgur.com/JDfm7GY

You're fine.

I just remembered you were using a laptop. MSI Afterburner gives errors on laptops for whatever reason, so you should've have used it. But whatever.

If the stats are to be believed (the ones that are correct, though I highly doubt it), your GPU isn't clocking up with it. It's staying at base clock speeds.
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
Remove all GPU drivers with this program and then reinstall them.
If that doesn't work, clean boot.

 

[Corundum]

I got Afterburner and recorded the stats while the game was running. I used snipping tool for the idle ones, but couldnt think of a way of recording the gameplay stats without Alt tabbing and exiting the game so i took a photo. Sorry for poor quality.

Idle Images: http://imgur.com/a/zeWBT

Gameplay Image: http://imgur.com/JDfm7GY

You're fine.

I just remembered you were using a laptop. MSI Afterburner gives errors on laptops for whatever reason, so you should've have used it. But whatever.

If the stats are to be believed (the ones that are correct, though I highly doubt it), your GPU isn't clocking up with it. It's staying at base clock speeds.
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
Remove all GPU drivers with this program and then reinstall them.
If that doesn't work, clean boot.

I think I performed a clean boot. msconfig> disabling all non windows programs and stopping all start up programs, then restarting. Is that right? If this doesnt work I may have to go to an IT guy of some kind so he can have a tangible look. Nevertheless thank you all for trying to help me <3

 

[pigeoncracker]

I think I performed a clean boot. msconfig> disabling all non windows programs and stopping all start up programs, then restarting. Is that right? If this doesnt work I may have to go to an IT guy of some kind so he can have a tangible look. Nevertheless thank you all for trying to help me <3

Yes, that's a clean boot.

If you can bring it to an IT guy that'd be awesome. He would be able to help a lot faster than anyone online. I prefer hands on myself. Though I am interested in what the issue was if you end out bringing it to him. Tell me once you figure out?

 

[Corundum]

I think I performed a clean boot. msconfig> disabling all non windows programs and stopping all start up programs, then restarting. Is that right? If this doesnt work I may have to go to an IT guy of some kind so he can have a tangible look. Nevertheless thank you all for trying to help me <3

Yes, that's a clean boot.

If you can bring it to an IT guy that'd be awesome. He would be able to help a lot faster than anyone online. I prefer hands on myself. Though I am interested in what the issue was if you end out bringing it to him. Tell me once you figure out?

Yep I'll update you when a solution becomes apparent. Thanks for all the help

 

[DrTurdecken]

To add to pigeoncracker, you can try using task manager or process explorer (better version of task manager that i use) to see all background processes and anything that may be interfering with your PC.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer.aspx

I got the program, and ran it. I don't really understand what its saying, but Deus Ex was using about 20 CPU in the main menu, and around 10 in game. Nothing else is using any significant cpu other than 'System Idle Preferences' which is using between 80 and 90. I have no idea if this is normal or not. Just noticed that some of the games that dont work have a very weird and annoying graphicla error where everything jitters slightly if the game is in fullscreen.

Sorry for the late reply. From what I can see there isn't any program that is draining your system resources. CPU usage for Deus Ex is fine. Also keep an eye on physical usage, which is just the percentage of RAM currently being used by all the programs that are running. Good luck on getting it fixed

 

[Corundum]

I think I performed a clean boot. msconfig> disabling all non windows programs and stopping all start up programs, then restarting. Is that right? If this doesnt work I may have to go to an IT guy of some kind so he can have a tangible look. Nevertheless thank you all for trying to help me <3

Yes, that's a clean boot.

If you can bring it to an IT guy that'd be awesome. He would be able to help a lot faster than anyone online. I prefer hands on myself. Though I am interested in what the issue was if you end out bringing it to him. Tell me once you figure out?

I did it! I neglected going to some other source of help for a while because CSGO and Age of Empires II weren't affected, and i was too lazy, and I thought to check that all games were actually using my graphics card. They weren't. Somehow I had changed the default to built in graphics, which were obviously not very effective. I changed the default back to my card, and all games seem to work again. Yay! Sorry for wasting everybody's time with my dumb and thanks for all the help.