[SOLVED] High temperatures 3600x

ChamoRTS

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Hello,
I have a problem with my Ryzen 3600x and it is that at rest it maintains temperatures of 68.69 degrees, in games it is around 71 to 80 degrees, those depend on the game.
I do not have any type of overclocking and the strangest thing is that I have a Corsair brand AIO and it does exactly the same, It does not matter if it is an AIO or the fan of Stock.
Update the Bios, the chipset and a new installation of Windows 10 and I get the same result.
To measure temperatures I use Ryzen Master, MSI afterburner and Aida64.

My Setup
ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero
MSI GeForce RTX 2080 GAMING X TRIO
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
Corsair iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT 240mm or Ryzen Prism Cooler
Arctic MX-4 2019 Edition Thermal Compound Paste Heatsink Paste - 4 Grams.
 
Solution
There's multiple factors at work.

Case temps are read from sensors on the motherboard and any halfway decent airflow case will run in the 10-20°C above ambient temp at best. With sensor settings of default 30°C - 70°C, you'll very rarely ever generally have case fans at a maximum level since the case temps aren't 70°C.

Having the aio pump or fans controlled by a case temp header bios setting is not ideal.

For simple AIO's, the rad fan(s) goes to the cpu_fan header and pump to any other header, it's 3pin so automatically gets the full 12v on a pwm header, must be set for full 12v (100% minimum duty cycle) on a DC voltage header.

For complex AIO's, the pump will go to the cpu_fan header, the fans go to the pump, powered by Sata...
Those are high temperatures, especially the idle ones, but arent high enough to kill your chip.
does your case have good airflow?
try checking one more time with the panel off

Also, check fans are on CPU_FAN and not CHA_FAN
I have the Lian li Dynamic, in the Linus Tech Tips forum, Users tell me it is normal.
 
I have the Lian li Dynamic, in the Linus Tech Tips forum, Users tell me it is normal.
The while gaming temps are normal. especially on the stock cooler, hitting 80 degrees is not that hard.
but idling at 70 is not normal.
Thats why im thinking the fans might be connected to CHA fan, since those kick in a much more sudden curve, and also run slower in general, and might only go at, 400 rpm until 70 degrees or so.
 
The while gaming temps are normal. especially on the stock cooler, hitting 80 degrees is not that hard.
but idling at 70 is not normal.
Thats why im thinking the fans might be connected to CHA fan, since those kick in a much more sudden curve, and also run slower in general, and might only go at, 400 rpm until 70 degrees or so.
With the Corsair iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT 240mm the same thing happened to me, I am going to build a Custom system now but later I will return to Intel.
 
I do not understand this comment, please explain.
On your motherboard
you have a CPU_FAN and CHA_FAN header.
maybe an AIO_PUMP (not always though)

they are all the same 3/4 pins and work on the same things. the difference, is the amount of power they provide, and when.
Both the fan on the stock cooler and the PUMP on the aio need 1 of those headers.
Check that the cooler is mounted on the CPU_FAN and not CHA_FAN

if you still cant understand, just tell me what board you are using and take a picture of the whole board.
 
There's multiple factors at work.

Case temps are read from sensors on the motherboard and any halfway decent airflow case will run in the 10-20°C above ambient temp at best. With sensor settings of default 30°C - 70°C, you'll very rarely ever generally have case fans at a maximum level since the case temps aren't 70°C.

Having the aio pump or fans controlled by a case temp header bios setting is not ideal.

For simple AIO's, the rad fan(s) goes to the cpu_fan header and pump to any other header, it's 3pin so automatically gets the full 12v on a pwm header, must be set for full 12v (100% minimum duty cycle) on a DC voltage header.

For complex AIO's, the pump will go to the cpu_fan header, the fans go to the pump, powered by Sata and controlled by the usb via iCue.

But that's just the aio setup. That's not addressing any airflow issues, which is where fan orientation is important. Air must come in, and go out. That's on you to determine, depending on placement and number of fans. A rear exhaust sitting under a giant vented hole in the top of the case does next to nothing but suck air into the case through the hole. All fans set at exhaust with little to no gaps to pull air from does nothing for airflow, fans get starved for air.

Fancy rgb fans on a rad might look cool, but do nothing for performance or case temps if they face the wrong direction.
 
Solution
On your motherboard
you have a CPU_FAN and CHA_FAN header.
maybe an AIO_PUMP (not always though)

they are all the same 3/4 pins and work on the same things. the difference, is the amount of power they provide, and when.
Both the fan on the stock cooler and the PUMP on the aio need 1 of those headers.
Check that the cooler is mounted on the CPU_FAN and not CHA_FAN

if you still cant understand, just tell me what board you are using and take a picture of the whole board.
It is connected to the CPU fan, the AIO is with its fans at 2400 RPM, all of this is controlled by the Icue program, the other fans are controlled by the Commander Pro.
I will leave a list of all my components.
 
My Setup ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero
MSI GeForce RTX 2080 GAMING X TRIO
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
BenQ EL2870U 28 inch HDR 4K
Silicon Power 1TB SSD 3D NAND
Silicon Power 1TB NVMe M.2
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB 3000Mhz
Corsair Commander PRO Corsair HXi Series 1200W Power Supply PLATINUM Certified Fully-Modular
Corsair STRAFE RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Cherry MX Brown
Corsair PBT Double-Shot Keycaps Full White
Corsair LS100 Smart Lighting Strip Expansion Kit 450mm
Corsair Scimitar Pro RGB MMO 16,000 DPI Corsair MM800 Polaris RGB Mouse Pad Corsair ST100 RGB - Premium RGB Gaming Headset Stand
Corsair HS70 Wireless White
Corsair QL Series Fan 120mm
Corsair iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT 240mm Audio-Technica MX50X
Logitech Z337 Bold Sound Bluetooth Wireless 2.1 Speaker System
Control Xbox One S Sport Special Edition White
Cougar Bunker Gaming Mouse Bungee
Thermaltake Tt eSPORTS GT Fit F100 Racing Bucket Seat Style Ergonomic Gaming Chair Black/Green
Phanteks Eclipse P400 Case Glacier White
 
There's multiple factors at work.

Case temps are read from sensors on the motherboard and any halfway decent airflow case will run in the 10-20°C above ambient temp at best. With sensor settings of default 30°C - 70°C, you'll very rarely ever generally have case fans at a maximum level since the case temps aren't 70°C.

Having the aio pump or fans controlled by a case temp header bios setting is not ideal.

For simple AIO's, the rad fan(s) goes to the cpu_fan header and pump to any other header, it's 3pin so automatically gets the full 12v on a pwm header, must be set for full 12v (100% minimum duty cycle) on a DC voltage header.

For complex AIO's, the pump will go to the cpu_fan header, the fans go to the pump, powered by Sata and controlled by the usb via iCue.

But that's just the aio setup. That's not addressing any airflow issues, which is where fan orientation is important. Air must come in, and go out. That's on you to determine, depending on placement and number of fans. A rear exhaust sitting under a giant vented hole in the top of the case does next to nothing but suck air into the case through the hole. All fans set at exhaust with little to no gaps to pull air from does nothing for airflow, fans get starved for air.

Fancy rgb fans on a rad might look cool, but do nothing for performance or case temps if they face the wrong direction.
The AIO are with their Fans at 2400 RPM all that is controlled by the Icue program, the other fans are controlled by the Commander Pro.
I will leave a list of all my components, 8 fans in total, 5 entering, 3 withdrawing.
 
There's multiple factors at work.

Case temps are read from sensors on the motherboard and any halfway decent airflow case will run in the 10-20°C above ambient temp at best. With sensor settings of default 30°C - 70°C, you'll very rarely ever generally have case fans at a maximum level since the case temps aren't 70°C.

Having the aio pump or fans controlled by a case temp header bios setting is not ideal.

For simple AIO's, the rad fan(s) goes to the cpu_fan header and pump to any other header, it's 3pin so automatically gets the full 12v on a pwm header, must be set for full 12v (100% minimum duty cycle) on a DC voltage header.

For complex AIO's, the pump will go to the cpu_fan header, the fans go to the pump, powered by Sata and controlled by the usb via iCue.

But that's just the aio setup. That's not addressing any airflow issues, which is where fan orientation is important. Air must come in, and go out. That's on you to determine, depending on placement and number of fans. A rear exhaust sitting under a giant vented hole in the top of the case does next to nothing but suck air into the case through the hole. All fans set at exhaust with little to no gaps to pull air from does nothing for airflow, fans get starved for air.

Fancy rgb fans on a rad might look cool, but do nothing for performance or case temps if they face the wrong direction.
Question, the bottom of the Stock heatsink has to get very hot? I ask for a comment I saw in another post.
 
Think of it this way.

Put a pan of water on a burner. That's exactly the same as a cpu cooler on a cpu, the pan of water is a heatsink absorbing the heat of the burner/cpu.

Use a small pan, little water, you'll get it boiling in short time as the water can't get rid of the heat fast enough. Use a giant pan of water, the burner is too small and can't output enough heat, the water takes forever to even get warm, and may never boil.

If you use a small cpu cooler, yes, it'll get very hot, it has to as it absorbs the heat from the cpu and tries desperately to dissipate it. If you use a larger cooler, it won't get as hot as it's capacity is greater, it's surface area is greater, so it's ability to dissipate the heat is greater.

Capacity and efficiency are not the same thing, but do have to work hand in hand.
 
I want to thank everyone for their comments.
Do some research and saw that the Voltage was a little high 1,400 and 1,510 With 4200Mhz, Enter the Bios and reset It took a few minutes to return to the previous temps I decided to do it manually with the Ryzen master, Lower the Voltage to 1.2625 3800MHz and now the temperatures are between 63 and 64 degrees.
 
It should be noted that I live in a part of the world where it is very hot.
In a few days I will update my Status when I build my new configuration. Thank you.
 
Warmer ambient temps usually have some affect on idle temps, but as warm as Ryzen runs at idle, not sure exactly how much effect it'll be. Your temps may not change at all.

Its impossible to cool a cpu below ambient by mechanical means, and a heatsink and fan is considered mechanical. So a Intel cpu idle of 30 in a 22° ambient would be closer to high 40's if not over 50 in a 40°C ambient. With Ryzen already past that point in idle temps, that's cpu load providing the impetus, not ambient temp.

Be interesting to see what happens, there's very little info on Ryzen temps with high ambient.