High Temps on Q6600.

[BuBu Shofronea]

Just hitted the jackpot of 95 Celsius degrees on Intel Burn Test. It happened just at the second sequence so it would've go farther but i stopped it. I bought the processor today and i've just installed it. The cooler is stock and it's right fitted in there. Thermal Paste is also right put. What's the cause, i'm scared.

I also wanted to OC it but according to the temps above, i might burn it.

 

[Chris Droste]

you're either putting too much paste on or intel push-pin CPU cooler isn't completely seated to the chip. I suggest you trash the stock cooler for something cheap that actually bolts up to the board or clean up everything very thoroughly, check/bend the anchor pins CAREFULLY, and spend some time reseating the stock cooler. I've run a stock cooler with the E8400, the Q9550, and they all had the same issue, especially if you're tipping the case up so the board is vertical, you need to handle the whole machine as if it were 100yr old crystal those pins pop loose if you sneeze on it. the Q6600 is an excellent, cool, efficient chip and you shouldn't even be hitting the 60s unless you're overclocking the snot out of it.

 

[BuBu Shofronea]

you're either putting too much paste on or intel push-pin CPU cooler isn't completely seated to the chip. I suggest you trash the stock cooler for something cheap that actually bolts up to the board or clean up everything very thoroughly, check/bend the anchor pins CAREFULLY, and spend some time reseating the stock cooler. I've run a stock cooler with the E8400, the Q9550, and they all had the same issue, especially if you're tipping the case up so the board is vertical, you need to handle the whole machine as if it were 100yr old crystal those pins pop loose if you sneeze on it. the Q6600 is an excellent, cool, efficient chip and you shouldn't even be hitting the 60s unless you're overclocking the snot out of it.

Thanks for responding. As this is the only answer i've got, i'll replace the cooler and the thermal paste, again, second time.

 

[BuBu Shofronea]

K, so i did what i say. I also changed the thermal paste with the one they gave me. I put just the necessary amount of it, the cooler sits very tights in there, even before i couldn't see any pin loose and i get the same 55-60 degrees in idle and, ofc, over 80-90 in load.

 

[akseli]

Idle temperature should definelty not be anything close to 55 degrees celsius. It should be maybe 30 to max 40 degrees. Check the clock speed and voltages, I think CPU-Z would be the best program for that, both in idle and under mild load, and google what they should be.

Your motherboard might have old settings fit for your previous CPU.

 

[BuBu Shofronea]

Idle temperature should definelty not be anything close to 55 degrees celsius. It should be maybe 30 to max 40 degrees. Check the clock speed and voltages, I think CPU-Z would be the best program for that, both in idle and under mild load, and google what they should be.

Your motherboard might have old settings fit for your previous CPU.

i did a reset of the CMOS after installing the new processor, so no, there cannot be old settings to cause that and the voltages look to be fine, i mean the max VCore i recorded was 1.344.

 

[Chris Droste]

maybe this is an early revision of the chip? like a B0?
the more recent G0 are very refined and run super cool. stock voltage sounds a little high. I'll reinforce @akseli and get CPU-Z installed; screenshots or stats should be helpful. if you're on stock cooling and a G0 chip, your voltage may only need to be as much as 1.25v

 

[BuBu Shofronea]

maybe this is an early revision of the chip? like a B0?
the more recent G0 are very refined and run super cool. stock voltage sounds a little high. I'll reinforce @akseli and get CPU-Z installed; screenshots or stats should be helpful. if you're on stock cooling and a G0 chip, your voltage may only need to be as much as 1.25v

The revision is G0, CPU-Z confirms that.

 

[Chris Droste]

a bunch of guys over on Hard's is reporting stock Vcore of 1.25-1.3. try backing the the voltage off manually, maybe start at 1.27v? and run some stress tests like prime95 or the burn test you were utilizing. as long as it makes passes without failure/errors you should be OK. i also noticed you're showing 2.7GHz on a 2.4GHz chip...are you already overclocking? something doesn't smell right, and i don't mean the genie smoke slowly leaking from this chip.

 

[BuBu Shofronea]

a bunch of guys over on Hard's is reporting stock Vcore of 1.25-1.3. try backing the the voltage off manually, maybe start at 1.27v? and run some stress tests like prime95 or the burn test you were utilizing. as long as it makes passes without failure/errors you should be OK. i also noticed you're showing 2.7GHz on a 2.4GHz chip...are you already overclocking? something doesn't smell right, and i don't mean the genie smoke slowly leaking from this chip.

About the OC, yeah, it's not so significant, and i did not change the voltages, it's running on stock, so that shouldn't affect the temps by more than a degree or two.
Gotta mention that i've hit that 95 degrees on the stock speed.

I'll try to lower the voltages by 0.025 to see if something changes in a better situation.

 

[Chris Droste]

unless you're manually controlling voltage, the board will automatically adjust voltage to ensure stable operation even on a small OC. even on my E8400 (3.0GHz Wolfdale) both my motherboards did that automatically; I went in and actually undervolted from stock and had it running stable @3.7GHz, on stock air cooling, 1100mhz memory, and I think I'd hit 65C under max/torture loads...mind you that was a 45nm chip but the whole core 2 series are crazy efficient overclockers. even toms did an old versus new and had a G0 chip cranked to 4+GHz on aftermarket air cooling, so i i honestly think your chip should be stable with much lower Vcore numbers

 

[BuBu Shofronea]

unless you're manually controlling voltage, the board will automatically adjust voltage to ensure stable operation even on a small OC. even on my E8400 (3.0GHz Wolfdale) both my motherboards did that automatically; I went in and actually undervolted from stock and had it running stable @3.7GHz, on stock air cooling, 1100mhz memory, and I think I'd hit 65C under max/torture loads...mind you that was a 45nm chip but the whole core 2 series are crazy efficient overclockers. even toms did an old versus new and had a G0 chip cranked to 4+GHz on aftermarket air cooling, so i i honestly think your chip should be stable with much lower Vcore numbers

K, so i've "undervolted" the CPU to its minimum value and that's -0.05V, but there's no change in the temps. I also removed the OC before doing that. Anyways, tomorrow i'll go and replace the processor with another one, same type tho. I'll also ask for a stress test to see if it's the CPU or my motherboard causing these heat problems.

 

[Chris Droste]

what motherboard is this? you should be able to do a huge adjustment to voltage. both my gigabyte boards from that era had incremental adjustments almost to a full -/+1v

...want to buy my X38-DQ6?

 

[BuBu Shofronea]

what motherboard is this? you should be able to do a huge adjustment to voltage. both my gigabyte boards from that era had incremental adjustments almost to a full -/+1v

...want to buy my X38-DQ6?

It's a G31MX that caused me only problems during the years and i still couldn't get rid of it . If i try to OC the Q6600 to 3.0GHz with the Bus of 333 and the multiplier ( i also cannot change the multiplier value in BIOS ) of 9, i get a No Post xD.

I would buy it, but i'm afraid the shipping costs would double the price of it

Oh and i'm not looking to invest anymore in this type of socket, keeping my money for AM3+. I just bought the Q6600 just because my old E5200 went out of its working state.

Out of the topic ( partially out ), maybe you're good enough to help me solve this http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2366709/75gb-usable-4gb-ram-bit.html

 

[BuBu Shofronea]

Just went to the place where i bought the Q6600. They said the CPU has nothing and it's the cooler, which is too weak. They also showed me by a test with a pretty decent cooler, but where the heatsink was made of copper and not aluminium like the stock cooler of Intel that i'm using and the Idle temp was ~32°C and with AIDA64 it reached, in a ~5 min test, 63-64°C, which is good. Atm i changed the cooler with another one from what i've found thru my old stuff, which has a bigger heatsink and it dropped the temp by ~10 degrees, running idle at 45-50 now. I'll go for an aftermarket one asap.

 

[Chris Droste]

yeah, that sounds a lot better, but that still makes me wonder what was up with stock cooling

 

[BuBu Shofronea]

yeah, that sounds a lot better, but that still makes me wonder what was up with stock cooling

You mean the stock one should do the job or i shouldn't have go for that ?

 

[Chris Droste]

Stock cooling is generally "adequate" for the chip and it's thermal envelope, up to 100% CPU use. it might run a little hot but in a decent case it shouldn't throttle. hitting those temps you posted definitely would have me looking at an aftermarket cooler. just measure how much space over the CPU you have and put the biggest tower cooler that'll fit in there. good luck!

 

[BuBu Shofronea]

Stock cooling is generally "adequate" for the chip and it's thermal envelope, up to 100% CPU use. it might run a little hot but in a decent case it shouldn't throttle. hitting those temps you posted definitely would have me looking at an aftermarket cooler. just measure how much space over the CPU you have and put the biggest tower cooler that'll fit in there. good luck!

thanks also look here if you want to help me find one http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2821272/gotta-choose-cooler-list.html