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I have a Spire WhisperRock IV on my XP 3200, which I purchased because it
was low-noise. Unfortunately I did not think that this would present a real
thermal issue, but the system has been shutting down from the heat. It's an
aluminum heatsink with a copper disc contact and an 80mm 2900 RPM fan. I
need to lower temp by 5 deg at least, preferably 10, and I don't want to
overspend. You think I could do this by replacing the fan, or am I looking
at a new HSF?
 
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Before you go and spend more money, be sure to reseat the HS a few
times...just to be sure it's seated properly. If that doesn't do the trick,
you can probably keep the fan....as for the HS, get yourself a Thermalright
HS. Best in the world! www.thermalright.com

Check out the benchmark results...
http://www.overclockers.com/articles373/socketA.asp
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"Kevin C." <nomail@dot.com> wrote in message
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> I have a Spire WhisperRock IV on my XP 3200, which I purchased because it
> was low-noise. Unfortunately I did not think that this would present a
real
> thermal issue, but the system has been shutting down from the heat. It's
an
> aluminum heatsink with a copper disc contact and an 80mm 2900 RPM fan. I
> need to lower temp by 5 deg at least, preferably 10, and I don't want to
> overspend. You think I could do this by replacing the fan, or am I looking
> at a new HSF?
>
>
 
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That's not a real good heatsink for high-performance cpus, but ... are you
running a rear case fan? Some people don't know about that. My friend got a
computer that had an Athlon XP Palomino, with no case fan, and after some
years we discovered that it was awful hot in there. It was set for extra
voltage, and the motherboard was a mess, with leaking caps (though that
could have been from a big big batch of bad caps the motherboard
manufacturers bought). And it gave errors in the prime95 torture test, which
is the common test to see if a pc is acting up. He got that very heatsink
that you have, I think it was, and it idles about 44C now. The one with the
80mm fan?
Your cpu is about 10 watts more than his.
You'd want to not reach 60 degrees under stress.


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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 05:48:42 +0000, Kevin C. wrote:

> I have a Spire WhisperRock IV on my XP 3200, which I purchased because it
> was low-noise. Unfortunately I did not think that this would present a real
> thermal issue, but the system has been shutting down from the heat. It's an
> aluminum heatsink with a copper disc contact and an 80mm 2900 RPM fan. I
> need to lower temp by 5 deg at least, preferably 10, and I don't want to
> overspend. You think I could do this by replacing the fan, or am I looking
> at a new HSF?

Test on this cooler with more powerful fans showed a great improvement as
you would expect. The stock fan is only 28cfm. Try something around 36cfm
or higher. Maybe this one;

http://www.nexfan.com/su80x80x25fa2.html

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Kevin C. wrote:
> I have a Spire WhisperRock IV on my XP 3200,
> which I purchased because it was low-noise.
> Unfortunately I did not think that this would
> present a real thermal issue, but the system has
> been shutting down from the heat.

I had a FalconRock, which looks nearly identical,
and it was not smooth and seriously not flat as
delivered. When I first installed it, I would have
sworn it was on right, but it was somehow not
seated correctly. After an hour of lapping and
sanding, it still ran pretty hot under maximum
load, but it was ok.
 
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"Wes Newell" <w.newell@TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote in message
news😛an.2005.07.24.07.41.19.994061@TAKEOUTverizon.net...
> Test on this cooler with more powerful fans showed a great improvement as
> you would expect. The stock fan is only 28cfm. Try something around 36cfm
> or higher. Maybe this one;

I'll take your word for it, but... where was this test done? Was there a
review on the web? Did you do it yourself?
 
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:59:32 +0000, Kevin C. wrote:

>
> "Wes Newell" <w.newell@TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote in message
> news😛an.2005.07.24.07.41.19.994061@TAKEOUTverizon.net...
>> Test on this cooler with more powerful fans showed a great improvement as
>> you would expect. The stock fan is only 28cfm. Try something around 36cfm
>> or higher. Maybe this one;
>
> I'll take your word for it, but... where was this test done? Was there a
> review on the web? Did you do it yourself?

http://www.dansdata.com/quickshot004.htm

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"Kevin C." <nomail@dot.com> wrote in message
news:_YFEe.20788$NU2.13370@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>I have a Spire WhisperRock IV on my XP 3200, which I purchased because it
> was low-noise. Unfortunately I did not think that this would present a
> real
> thermal issue, but the system has been shutting down from the heat. It's
> an
> aluminum heatsink with a copper disc contact and an 80mm 2900 RPM fan. I
> need to lower temp by 5 deg at least, preferably 10, and I don't want to
> overspend. You think I could do this by replacing the fan, or am I looking
> at a new HSF?
>

The Fan isn't the only factor in Processor cooling. It's imperative you have
the proper Thermal compound such as Arctic Silver 5 applied to the heatsink.
The thermal pad that comes with most heatsinks is not capable of proper
thermal transfer. This alone can drop temperatures as much as 10C. Also a
higher CFM vfan on your existing heatsink will work wonders, I suggest any
fan that pushes at least 30 cfm. You didn't mention what size fan your
existing heatsink has but look for one that is at least 5000 rpm if 80 mm or
6000 rpm for a 70 mm fan. Also
>
 
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