Holding on to i7 920 the right move?

[loki5]

Hello peeps, so i recently got the itch to upgrade and after careful review it took everything in me at this time to hold off from pulling the trigger on buying new cpu/mobo(i5 3570k+AsRock4) - for gaming purposes. A cheap investment, a little over 300 bones for a little performance gain.

So i decided to invest in a water cooling kit (XSPC Raystorm RX360) system to OC my i7 920, from reading a bit i see that it can get up to 4ghz? hopefully that will satisfy my thirst a bit longer and wait for next year Nvidia 700 series gpu's and the next gen from Intel?

i would kindly appreciate your thoughts on the approach i've taken.

Regards....

 

[popatim]

waste of 300 bones... LoL.
Likely you dont even fully utilize what you have now.

I'm in the same boat wanting to jump ship from AMD x6 rig to a hex core i7 but the last time I pulled up task manager I wasn't even pegging the cpu at 100% during transcoding... and I have two Samsung 830's plus two fast raid 0 arrays all setup right... wtf. LoL - dont get me wrong, its fast but its showing me it still has plenty of muscle left.

 

[jaguarskx]

That's a waste of bonez.

Save 'em bonez for Haswell. You will be better off.

 

[vinaykumar5320]

Save up some bonez for Haswell... lol Bonez.

 

[lilotimz]

*looks at my computer*

You'll be fine for quite a while at the rate technology is progressing (or stagnating).

 

[lilotimz]

haha, your laptop cpu destroys your desktop cpu even at 3.6ghz and this is a basic 3610qm you have.

Anyway once haswell comes out it will be amazing. half power for same performance with integrated graphics and cpu. By the way if you have a power consumption test, do a cpu intensive task like cinebench on both your machines.

I won't be suprised if your 3610qm at stock takes full load 50w while your 3.6ghz i7 will easily lose and take like 200w.

Haha nope.

A 3rd generation Core i7 is only about 10-15% faster than a first generation Core i7. A 3610qm at @2.30ghz is about equivalent to my i7-920 @ 2.66ghz and mine is overclocked to 3.6 which means it's much faster than my 3610qm. Also a 3610qm has a TDP of 45w at 2.30ghz while my i7-920 have a tdp of 135w and probably ~160w at max load @ 3.6ghz.

My overclocked i7-920 desktop will run circles around my laptop in both CPU intensive tasks and GPU intensive tasks. Power consumption is a wholly different matter as one is connected to a wall socket and the other runs on battery or plugged into a wall socket. Not to mention different cooling systems and purposes.

 

[stantheman123]

Are you being serious, 2nd generation sandy bridge is like 50% better. Anyway do a task mainly on cpu. Leave laptop on a laptop stand with good airflow for fan. Trust me the 3610qm at stock vs i7 920 at stock the 3610qm is like 60-80% faster up to even a bigger amount.

Heck try just cpu intensive task. Also the 3610qm turbos up. Heck comparing a 3610qm to an old i7 920 is like comparing a q9300 to an i5 3450.

If you really think your desktop cpu is faster then convince yourself that. Check the power meter etc, I bet when doing something like cinebench the 3610qm wins while your basic i7 920 att 3.6ghz loses and if you have a kilawatt machine I won't be suprised if your desktop is taking 250w at 3.6ghz running cinebench while the laptop is taking around 60w.

It makes me laugh that people who don't know anything about computing think desktop cpu's are faster even when old. You can get laptop cpu's that beat the 980x/990x on 50% of applications.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html
Use restrict button and compare i7 920 and i7 975 to an i7 3610qm and click on all the benchmarks at the top.

No just no heres i7 950 vs core i7 2600k the i7 950 is just a overclocked 920. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/100?vs=287 in farcry 7 fps more for sandy bridge crysis 4 fps more

Now look what a i7 920 at 4.2ghz does http://alienbabeltech.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/GTX680-games-1a.jpg it beats a stock 3770k which btw turbos up to 3.9ghz so its the 920 its 0.3mhz faster and itsa on par 3RD gen i7 and somtimes beating it. Do your research kid.

 

[stantheman123]

This is so funny its unbelieveable. The gpu is the bottleneck on the 2nd link you gave. Also the 1st link its like 20-30% difference. Not bad. I am interested in the other persons i7 920 cinebench benchmark and power consumption to his laptop using all 8 threads to see which wins. Anyway sandy bridge and 32nm owned 45nm nehalem.

The way I see it is i7 nehalem is like a pentium d on 65nm comparing to a 45nm core 2 duo which is like a sandy bridge i7 2600k.

So pentium d 65nm vs 45nm core 2 duo is like comparing the difference from 45nm i7 nehalem to an i7 2600k 32nm sandy bridge cpu.

Anyway the 3610qm will own the i7 920 on pretty much anything. By the way the 3610qm turboboosts up to 3.1ghz for 4 cores and is 22nm ivy bridge vs 45nm nehalem last of the rubbish power hungry architecture. Heck sandy bridge architecture was like 50% better performance then nehalem at less power consumption, ivy bridge is lik 10%-15% better performance and taking like 20% less electricity so it is like 60% better performanec at stock i3610qm then the i7 929 and the 920 being a desktop being more power hungry its like over 2.5x better performance per watt then the i7 920 the 3610qm is.

Bottleneck? thats a GTX 680 SINGLE FASTEST GPU learn your facts kid. And i could not care less about power. in gaming theres no difference between a highly overclock 920/930/950 or a 3770k Kiddio. Stop prasing your cpu its not a 3960k . if my 930 is keeping up with a 3770k its beating your 3610qm all day long son. and mobile gpus are 50% slower than desktop gpus i had a gtx 460m that is a equiliant to a 450gts Laptops are pathetic for gaming, real gamers use Dekstops have with with your "turbo 3.1" ill stick with my 4GHZ kid. You know nothing about computers. im done talking to a kid who thinks he knows things I know this since i have a core i7 2600k pc and a i7 930 and my mate has a i7 3770k ive put my gpu in all them Fps is merly no more than 8fps diffrence Desktop cpus beat the crap out of your little mobile cpu Later kid. Heat? i dont go over 60c on cpu and 65c on gpu i use good cooling. ;-)

 

[lilotimz]

This is so funny its unbelieveable. The gpu is the bottleneck on the 2nd link you gave. Also the 1st link its like 20-30% difference. Not bad. I am interested in the other persons i7 920 cinebench benchmark and power consumption to his laptop using all 8 threads to see which wins. Anyway sandy bridge and 32nm owned 45nm nehalem.

The way I see it is i7 nehalem is like a pentium d on 65nm comparing to a 45nm core 2 duo which is like a sandy bridge i7 2600k.

So pentium d 65nm vs 45nm core 2 duo is like comparing the difference from 45nm i7 nehalem to an i7 2600k 32nm sandy bridge cpu.

Anyway the 3610qm will own the i7 920 on pretty much anything. By the way the 3610qm turboboosts up to 3.1ghz for 4 cores and is 22nm ivy bridge vs 45nm nehalem last of the rubbish power hungry architecture. Heck sandy bridge architecture was like 50% better performance then nehalem at less power consumption, ivy bridge is lik 10%-15% better performance and taking like 20% less electricity so it is like 60% better performanec at stock i3610qm then the i7 929 and the 920 being a desktop being more power hungry its like over 2.5x better performance per watt then the i7 920 the 3610qm is.

What you are saying is absolutely wrong.

A MOBILE i7-3610QM on MAX load with all four cores utilizes tops out well under 3.1ghz due to design. It can boost one or two cores up to that level but when all four cores are in use, it's only just slightly above 2.3ghz due to thermal limits based on laptop design. By the way, I have the 3610qm, you don't. I know what power it has, how hot it gets, and its performance and YOU don't because I have it on my laptop that i regularly use for both gaming and whatever miscellaneous tasks I do. These benchmarks meaning absolutely nothing and does not take into effect any other component configurations etc.

And you should really just look facts up before you sprout BS. A Sandybridge i5-2600k @ the same clocks as a first generation quad core is on average 10% better. An Ivy bridge processor at the same clock is 5% better than the sandy bridge which equates to around 15% faster than an nehelam based processor.

There is absolutely no fact to your statement that a Sandy bridge processor is 50% faster or an IB is 60% better. If it were that much better, everyone would have a new intel cpu, AMD will go bankrupt, and intel would get sued for monopolistic practices. Fact is, both benchmarks and real world performance puts the latest intel processors close together in terms of raw performance.

Furthermore, are you seriously going to say a mobile intel i7-3610qm in a laptop which is restricted by battery and heat is going to use less power than a desktop based i7-920 with a discrete graphic card with no thermal or power limits and that shows that the i7-920 sucks? If so, I am speechless and will withhold words that will get me in trouble.

 

[stantheman123]

What you are saying is absolutely wrong.

A MOBILE i7-3610QM on MAX load with all four cores utilizes tops out well under 3.1ghz due to design. It can boost one or two cores up to that level but when all four cores are in use, it's only just slightly above 2.3ghz due to thermal limits based on laptop design. By the way, I have the 3610qm, you don't. I know what power it has, how hot it gets, and its performance and YOU don't because I have it on my laptop that i regularly use for both gaming and whatever miscellaneous tasks I do. These benchmarks meaning absolutely nothing and does not take into effect any other component configurations etc.

And you should really just look facts up before you sprout BS. A Sandybridge i5-2600k @ the same clocks as a first generation quad core is on average 10% better. An Ivy bridge processor at the same clock is 5% better than the sandy bridge which equates to around 15% faster than an nehelam based processor.

There is absolutely no fact to your statement that a Sandy bridge processor is 50% faster or an IB is 60% better. If it were that much better, everyone would have a new intel cpu, AMD will go bankrupt, and intel would get sued for monopolistic practices. Fact is, both benchmarks and real world performance puts the latest intel processors close together in terms of raw performance.

Furthermore, are you seriously going to say a mobile intel i7-3610qm in a laptop which is restricted by battery and heat is going to use less power than a desktop based i7-920 with a discrete graphic card with no thermal or power limits and that shows that the i7-920 sucks? If so, I am speechless and will withhold words that will get me in trouble.

Omg you sir thank you. someone who KNOWS what there talking about is very nice to see. i tried my best not to be rude with him but its hard. The 3610qm is not a bad cpu by anymeans but you dont compare laptops and desktops you just dont. +1 ty you mate.

 

[stantheman123]

Whatever man. i dont see a point in talking to you. just lock this thread.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

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[loki5]

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