News Homegrown Chinese CPUs are catching up to AMD and Intel — Loongson 3B6600 and 3B7000 allegedly match Intel 10th Gen CPU performance

[Admin]

Loongson revealed two domestically made CPUs for China's mainstream market due to independent research and development, having its IPC matching with Zen 3 and Intel Comet Lake CPUs.

Homegrown Chinese CPUs are catching up to AMD and Intel — Loongson 3B6600 and 3B7000 allegedly match Intel 10th Gen CPU performance : Read more

 

[thisisaname]

Claiming a 20X improvement, if Intel, AMD or Nvidia claimed a similar improvement I would still say I'm waiting for some independent benchmark before I believed it.

 

[ivan_vy]

"The IPC comparison with the Loongson CPUs reminds me of Pat Gelsinger's comment about Chinese-made CPUs being decades behind. But with companies like Loongson making such progress, one wonders if the domestic chipmakers can close the gap sooner than ten years."
they will be fine, Steam Survey HW shows 55% of CPU are 4 and 6 cores,
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
these octa core will be enough for all the office and government clients that have no other options, not all customers need cutting edge silicon.

 

[Pierce2623]

The headline is a bit ridiculous when zen1 on 14nm still smokes this chip. China is also at the absolute limits of the process node technology that they have currently available to them. This “advanced 7nm” node can’t keep up with TSMC 12nm even in the mobile segment that this node was optimized for.

 

[usertests]

The headline is a bit ridiculous when zen1 on 14nm still smokes this chip. China is also at the absolute limits of the process node technology that they have currently available to them. This “advanced 7nm” node can’t keep up with TSMC 12nm even in the mobile segment that this node was optimized for.

Maybe they'll never truly catch up until all progress halts, but these alternatives are clearly reaching levels of performance that would be good enough for many personal computing use cases. Around quad-core Skylake or Intel N100 is the threshold IMO.

I think the biggest downside would be if the chips were inordinately expensive compared to the comparable obsolete or low-end products from the West, with the process node using multiple patterning and delivering bad yields.

 

[Pierce2623]

Maybe they'll never truly catch up until all progress halts, but these alternatives are clearly reaching levels of performance that would be good enough for many personal computing use cases. Around quad-core Skylake or Intel N100 is the threshold IMO.

I think the biggest downside would be if the chips were inordinately expensive compared to the comparable obsolete or low-end products from the West, with the process node using multiple patterning and delivering bad yields.

Fair enough. From what I’m seeing, they should be fairly close to n100 level now if they’re floating between Skylake and Kaby Lake performances. The last n100 scores I’ve seen were pretty close to 6500/7500 non-k performance.

 

[killingfield]

Claiming a 20X improvement, if Intel, AMD or Nvidia claimed a similar improvement I would still say I'm waiting for some independent benchmark before I believed it.

The original article specifies a 20x improvement, which is relative to their first-generation product—the Loongson 3A1000, a 65nm process CPU clocked at 800MHz, launched over a decade ago. Given this context, the claim of a 20x improvement appears quite plausible, particularly as it refers to the SPEC2006 benchmark scores of these two products.

 

[das_stig]

I've said many times, China plays the long game and eventually they will get parity if not surpass western cpu's, then I think we'll see a divergence, as eventually China will not be allowed to include enhancements to their x86 licence and they'll supply to only their friendly countries who are on block lists.

 

[oldpond]

China has already surpassed NVIDIA's A100 with their BR100. Who's to say they haven't done the same in the CPU market? I believe the US has already lost the battle, hence the sanctions and restrictions. These CPU's are just fine for general everyday use, and they will be a fraction of the cost of Intel or AMD units.