Question Hotspot tethering causes network monitoring to freeze up ?

Dec 7, 2021
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i use mobile hotspot tethering for an application and and wifi for my local wifi for other apps. (I only use mobile hotspot because my home internet is trash and i do hybrid to save some data).

The problem:
I use network monitor to see if an app is either using my wifi or hotspot and seeing how much they use [Task Manager]
The issue is that taskmanager updates just stops but the application doesn't freeze up. Numbers and graphs just stops. Including resource monitor but only the network section freezes up as well.

  • I tried searching for troubleshooting but no luck.
  • I tried switching different drivers from classic NDIS compatability driver and Samsungs own teathering driver and both didn't fixed it.
  • I looked at Event viewer but no warning or critical errors and no information on network issues.
  • I tried with firewall and Windows Defender disabled but still the same.
I'm on the latest version of Windows 10.
 

Ralston18

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This:

"my home internet is trash "

That could be part of the problem - more information needed.

Make and model modem, make and model router, or make and model if combined?

Samsung phone - correct?

Any network access points?

How many other devices on the network - wired and wireless?

FYI:

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/difference-between-wifi-and-hotspot/

http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-wi-fi-and-hotspot/

Take a look at the "bigger picture" with regards to your requirements and what you are doing.
 
Dec 7, 2021
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This:

"my home internet is trash "

That could be part of the problem - more information needed.

Make and model modem, make and model router, or make and model if combined?

Samsung phone - correct?

Any network access points?

How many other devices on the network - wired and wireless?

FYI:

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/difference-between-wifi-and-hotspot/

http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-wi-fi-and-hotspot/

Take a look at the "bigger picture" with regards to your requirements and what you are doing.
Home internet speed is 16mbps down 1mbps up
Home router/modem: AT&T U-verse Pace 5268AC Gateway Internet Wireless Modem Router with power adapter 5268AC FXN
Wifi is connected at 5ghz [802.11ac]
wifi dongle is a tp-link Archer T2U plus
Its a samsung s9 using USB tethering.
Nothing else is connected to my phone's hotspot except my computer by USB tethering
Home network there is atleast 4 though it varries during the day

what am i trying to do: Figure out why USB tethering causes my network monitors to freeze up.

Edit:
I tried without wifi and even with just USB thethering by itself. Network monitoring freezes up
 
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Ralston18

Titan
Moderator
okay - that does help.

First in Task Manager are you able to sort the Network column by clicking the small upward or downward pointing arrow in the Column header? The sort purpose being to present Network %'s in descending order so the highest % processes are at the top. (Run Task Manager as Admin.)

Second, open Resource Monitor as Admin and look in the Network tab. Again sort where possible to identify the processes with the highest activity levels.

Third another tool that can help is Process Explorer (free from Microsoft).

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer

The overall objective is to discover some process that can be directly connected to the freeze ups. That is any process using a high % of any system resource(s) at the time of the freeze.

= = = =

And the wifi dongle (Archer T2U Plus)

This dongle?

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-desktop-10-9-10-14-Archer-T2U/dp/B07P5PRK7J


FYI:

https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/forum/topic/232412

Two suggestions with respect to the dongle:

1) Before booting the host computer feel the USB wifi dongle. After the system has booted and you have been working for awhile carefully feel the dongle again. If the dongle is very warm, hot, or even untouchable hot that could be part of the issue.

2) Use an USB extension cable to raise the USB dongle up and away from the back of the computer. May help with transmission and reception plus help with keeping the dongle cooler.
 
Dec 7, 2021
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okay - that does help.

First in Task Manager are you able to sort the Network column by clicking the small upward or downward pointing arrow in the Column header? The sort purpose being to present Network %'s in descending order so the highest % processes are at the top. (Run Task Manager as Admin.)

Second, open Resource Monitor as Admin and look in the Network tab. Again sort where possible to identify the processes with the highest activity levels.

Third another tool that can help is Process Explorer (free from Microsoft).

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer

The overall objective is to discover some process that can be directly connected to the freeze ups. That is any process using a high % of any system resource(s) at the time of the freeze.

= = = =

And the wifi dongle (Archer T2U Plus)

This dongle?

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-desktop-10-9-10-14-Archer-T2U/dp/B07P5PRK7J


FYI:

https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/forum/topic/232412

Two suggestions with respect to the dongle:

1) Before booting the host computer feel the USB wifi dongle. After the system has booted and you have been working for awhile carefully feel the dongle again. If the dongle is very warm, hot, or even untouchable hot that could be part of the issue.

2) Use an USB extension cable to raise the USB dongle up and away from the back of the computer. May help with transmission and reception plus help with keeping the dongle cooler.
So trying your suggestions and tools none of them didn't help
Looking at the network usages on process-explorerr, task manager [admin], resource monitor [admin]. Nothing worked and the network section still froze up like usually. i seen no high CPU usage nor high Network usage. Another thing I noticed is going to control panel network section it takes minutes for my click to respond. However the other sections [system and security, Hardware and sounds] both load fast and instant
And of course when i disconnect everything loads in an instant goes back to normal.
 

Ralston18

Titan
Moderator
There are still things you can look at and things you can do.

Things you can look at:


Reliability History and Event Viewer for error codes, warnings, or even informational events that precede or correspond with the network freezes.

Reliability History is much more user friendly and uses a time line format that may reveal some pattern.

Things you can do:

Try running "sfc /scannow" and "dism" via the Command Prompt as admin.

References:

https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-use-sfc-scannow-to-repair-windows-system-files-2626161

DISM Overview | Microsoft Docs


This modem/router?

https://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/2267100~5694a5d84811c1255c4f12556de77ead/5268AC Manual.pdf
 
Dec 7, 2021
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There are still things you can look at and things you can do.

Things you can look at:

Reliability History and Event Viewer for error codes, warnings, or even informational events that precede or correspond with the network freezes.

Reliability History is much more user friendly and uses a time line format that may reveal some pattern.

Things you can do:

Try running "sfc /scannow" and "dism" via the Command Prompt as admin.

References:

https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-use-sfc-scannow-to-repair-windows-system-files-2626161

DISM Overview | Microsoft Docs


This modem/router?

https://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/2267100~5694a5d84811c1255c4f12556de77ead/5268AC Manual.pdf
yes its the router but again i narrowed it down that its not the wifi's fault because it even freezes up when they're disconnected. and the command fixes doesn't work. i honestly kinda gave up on this point. Since my network doesn't really cut its only the network monitoring that freezes up i'll just say forget it aslong as it works it works.
 

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