Question How and Why

[xfr0stx]

First Case:I have an all in one desktop with i7 latest gen and it does not have a gpu , Can I add a gpu inside this thing or anyother way?
Second Case:I have a laptop with 970 gtx graphiv card but since december the performance is so bad that I can run games smooth in an 5 year old pc whi h has no gpu any idea how to increase performance it struggles to even get 60 frames , its an MSI laptop with i7 gtx 970m 8th gen 16gb ram

 

[Barty1884]

1. For an AIO with no discreet GPU, it's unlikely that you can add one. Limited space for components, limited airflow/cooling ability & limited power connectors. Even when an AIO has a discreet GPU, it's not typically upgradeable. AIOs are essentially non-portable laptops.

While AIO do you have, specifically though?

2. A laptop with a 970m should still be plenty viable for 1080p gaming. Are you monitoring temperatures? Are you monitoring utilization? Does the problem exist while plugged in/charging AND while on battery, or only one or the other?

 

[tennis2]

1. If you don't at least tell us the make/model of the machine, we can't help you.
2. Could be overheating.

 

[jojesa]

First Case:I have an all in one desktop with i7 latest gen and it does not have a gpu , Can I add a gpu inside this thing or anyother way?

It will help to know the model of your all-in-on PC
Many All-in-one PCs use laptop parts and upgrading CPU or GPU might not be an option
Some laptops and desktop might support external GPU.

Second Case:I have a laptop with 970 gtx graphiv card but since couple of days the performance is so bad that I can run games smooth in an 5 year old pc whi h has no gpu any idea how to increase performance it struggles to even get 60 frames , its an MSI laptop with i7 gtx 970m 8th gen 16gb ram

Any changes in a couple of days that could have changed your system?
If in doubt, then try a clean Windows installation.

 

[xfr0stx]

1. It is a DELL OptiPlex 9030 AIO series
2.I will check and tell u the temps by tomorrow. Problem occurs when plugged in and as well as not plugged in.It is just wierd, It was working fine until december one day I like usual started playing and too much drops like playing on a non graphic card PC idk why

 

[jojesa]

1. It is a DELL OptiPlex 9030 AIO series

The only thing that could improve performance on the Dell AIO is upgrading the SATA HDD to SSD.
It also has a M.2 slot, which support M.2 NVMe SSD (2242) allowing you to keep the old disk.

2.I will check and tell u the temps by tomorrow. Problem occurs when plugged in and as well as not plugged in.It is just wierd, It was working fine until december one day I like usual started playing and too much drops like playing on a non graphic card PC idk why

Use CPUz to check the speed of the CPU.
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Also check the disk with Crystal Disk info (standard zip version)
https://osdn.net/projects/crystaldiskinfo/releases/

 

[xfr0stx]

What about external GPU or something. Maybe something with the laptop and the aio

 

[USAFRet]

What about external GPU or something. Maybe something with the laptop and the aio

"external GPU"
AKA, How to turn a poorly performing laptop into a poorly performing desktop.

 

[jojesa]

What about external GPU or something. Maybe something with the laptop and the aio

A external GPU requires a connection (Thunderbolt) and bandwidth not available on those units.

 

[Barty1884]

A external GPU requires a connection (Thunderbolt) and bandwidth not available on those units.

To clarify, legit solutions do. And the hacked together 'solutions' sacrificing your WIFI card are temperamental at best

 

[xfr0stx]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/QWNgDnL9hhsaLDQm8
That is the backside picture of the AIO.So is there no way I can increase the performance? What if I build a PC and then use aio as monitor? Will it work

 

[jojesa]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/QWNgDnL9hhsaLDQm8
That is the backside picture of the AIO.So is there no way I can increase the performance? ...

Like I previously stated the only components you could upgrade is the HDD to SSD to make programs load faster... and that will not help with graphic performance is games.

...What if I build a PC and then use aio as monitor? Will it work

Yes, you could use the AIO screen as a display using a HDMI connection.
Of course, it will be wasting electricity, since the whole AIO must be powered on.

 

[USAFRet]

Yes, you could use the AIO screen as a display using a HDMI connection.
Of course, it will be wasting electricity, since the whole AIO must be powered on.

Only if that AIO has HDMI IN. Which is not typical.

 

[jojesa]

Only if that AIO has HDMI IN. Which is not typical.

I have worked on that model and it does have a HDMI-IN port.

 

[xfr0stx]

So it wastes electricity?
I mean u cant use it as just like normal monitors? like without plugging other things just the aio to the pc

 

[USAFRet]

So it wastes electricity?
I mean u cant use it as just like normal monitors? like without plugging other things just the aio to the pc

This particular All In One can be used as a regular monitor. Most can't. They don't have the circuitry.

 

[jojesa]

Dell OptiPlex 9030 AIO systems come with HDMI-IN, so it can be used as monitor.

 

[xfr0stx]

Well, about the speed of CPU its 2590 something