[SOLVED] How can I enable fastpath on my vdsl connection

[Mockingjason]

Hello, I'm on a 50/5 mbps connection. How can I enable fastpath? I called my isp and they told me that they cannot enable fastpath on vdsl connections.

 

[Alabalcho]

Why? What you expect to get even if it was possible?

 

[Mockingjason]

Lower ping

 

[ex_bubblehead]

Lower ping

Doesn't work that way.

 

[bill001g]

VDSL works a little different than ADSL but this is a trade off.

First 10ms extra or so will have no impact on any game or other application so you have to be careful to not get too buried looking at numbers.

This feature is a trade off. On lines that are getting errors they run the error correction. You can disable this and run fastpath but you now see the errors.

So you either get a slightly higher latency or you get packet loss because the data has errors in it when you receive it.

Latency unless it is very high say 100's of ms does not really matter. In games the key is more consistent latency. The thing a game does not like is if the latency is say 150ms and then jumps to say 200ms and then back to 150ms. The DSL error correction adds a fixed amount that does not change.

Too much packet loss will also cause major issue for games. Packet loss is much more a problem for other application also which is why delay is preferred to loss.

 

[Mockingjason]

VDSL works a little different than ADSL but this is a trade off.

First 10ms extra or so will have no impact on any game or other application so you have to be careful to not get too buried looking at numbers.

This feature is a trade off. On lines that are getting errors they run the error correction. You can disable this and run fastpath but you now see the errors.

So you either get a slightly higher latency or you get packet loss because the data has errors in it when you receive it.

Latency unless it is very high say 100's of ms does not really matter. In games the key is more consistent latency. The thing a game does not like is if the latency is say 150ms and then jumps to say 200ms and then back to 150ms. The DSL error correction adds a fixed amount that does not change.

Too much packet loss will also cause major issue for games. Packet loss is much more a problem for other application also which is why delay is preferred to loss.

I am mainly playing league, I used to play on 59ms but my connection was really unstable (every 30 seconds or so it would top at 350ms for 4-7 seconds), so now with my new vdsl connection I'm on around 76ms which I'm not used to, even tho it stays at a solid 75-79 ms with no spikes. How can I enable the fastpath, just so I can see if the packet loss is really bad?

 

[bill001g]

You need to call the ISP and see if it is a option or not.

You likely will not be able to detect 10ms less latency. The only reason you even know is because of tools like ping. You can't actually detect it because it is so tiny compared to other delays in most games. In addition games have artificial delays built in so that someone that lives close to the server does not have a advantage over someone farther away with higher latency.

 

[Mockingjason]

You need to call the ISP and see if it is a option or not.

You likely will not be able to detect 10ms less latency. The only reason you even know is because of tools like ping. You can't actually detect it because it is so tiny compared to other delays in most games. In addition games have artificial delays built in so that someone that lives close to the server does not have a advantage over someone farther away with higher latency.

They said it isn't an option. Is there any other way?

 

[bill001g]

Your ISP is in full control of this setting. Maybe you can use a different ISP. It depends on the country. The phone lines to your house would still be owned by the same company so you can't change that but the equipment it is connected to might be different.

Your issue maybe that the phone line coming to your house are not good enough to run fastpath.

Not sure about VDSL but I know on ADSL a lot of the systems will monitor for errors and switch you to interleaved if they detect too many errors. So some tech can change it to fastpath but it will change itself back to interleaved after some period of time if the line is bad.

You have few option though if your ISP said they won't do it.

Again this is more you are worrying too much about numbers rather than your actual performance. A small amount of extra latency does not have much effect even on competitive shooter games. These games are designed to not give someone with better latency a advantage. Now if you were saying it adds 100ms then maybe that is different but fastpath generally is only 10-20ms more.

 

[Mockingjason]

Your ISP is in full control of this setting. Maybe you can use a different ISP. It depends on the country. The phone lines to your house would still be owned by the same company so you can't change that but the equipment it is connected to might be different.

Your issue maybe that the phone line coming to your house are not good enough to run fastpath.

Not sure about VDSL but I know on ADSL a lot of the systems will monitor for errors and switch you to interleaved if they detect too many errors. So some tech can change it to fastpath but it will change itself back to interleaved after some period of time if the line is bad.

You have few option though if your ISP said they won't do it.

Again this is more you are worrying too much about numbers rather than your actual performance. A small amount of extra latency does not have much effect even on competitive shooter games. These games are designed to not give someone with better latency a advantage. Now if you were saying it adds 100ms then maybe that is different but fastpath generally is only 10-20ms more.

What are my options? I just wanna check if I'll get a ton of packet loss.

 

[bill001g]

"YOU" have no options. It is a setting on the ISP equipment there are no option you can change. The only thing you can do is call the ISP and since they don't want to change it then it is impossible.